Did the reason for the 7 char TSO HLQ come from the UADS process needing the 
last char in the member name to chain the information for a given TSO ID in 
SYS1.UADS (think ACCOUNT Function)?

Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:19 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: TSO User ID Rules (Was: z/OS and code pages)
> 
> The TSO ID is used as a HLQ for data set names.  Therefore it must meet the
> rules for MVS Dataset names: first character A-Z@#$, second to seventh
> character A-Z@#$0-9, max 7 due to PDS member needing 8th character.  Minimum
> length determined by site.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Tony Harminc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 15 September 2016 at 02:41, Timothy Sipples <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Tony Harminc wrote:
> >>>What, in this context, is an MVS subsystem? ...And where is this text
> >>>from -- evidently not the RACF Security Administrator's Guide?
> >>
> >> You are allowed to take a look at the Administrator's Guide. :)
> >
> > I already had, and the phrase "MVS subsystem" does not appear in that book.
> >
> >> But here's a copy/paste:
> >>
> >> "TSO and MVS also require that the first character of user IDs be
> >> uppercase A - Z, # (X'7B'), $ (X'5B'), or @ (X'7C')."
> >
> > That says nothing about "subsystem". You appear to have inserted the
> > word, and I'm just trying to understand why and with what meaning.
> >
> >> So what does "MVS" mean in this context? The Administrator's Guide
> >> doesn't say. "Not z/OS UNIX System Services" is a reasonable answer,
> >> but it might be a partial one.
> >
> > I obviously wasn't clear: It's the "subsystem" part I'm asking about,
> > not the "MVS" part. I know at least a couple of meanings of the word
> > "subsystem" in MVS. But I don't know of any such usage that sets these
> > additional requirements for userids. Unless you are using it with some
> > trivial meaning like "stuff that runs on MVS that isn't UNIX or TSO
> > and somehow, you know, does stuff with userids".
> >
> > Tony H.
> >

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