I know a few people that have a [ https://www.itconline.com/updt/ ]( https://www.itconline.com/updt/ ) system. It can support 16 LPARS and the folks at [ www.itconline.com ]( http://www.itconline.com ) will do everything before you receive the system. They will hit you for about $40K one-time charge but you can have a single user LPAR or a multiple user LPAR for people to learn on. The only other cost would be to put it in a CO-LO facility to keep it safe and monitored 24 hours a day. But the ILC would be about $1700 for a 16 LPAR system, and then $420 for the yearly license. If you are a PP Developer that is pennies. If you want to have a leaning LPAR for 5 People, that would be about $350 for ILC and $85 for the yearly licenses Steve Beaver [email protected]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This electronic mail (including any attachments) may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). Any dissemination or use of this electronic email or its contents (including any attachments) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply email so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message (including any attachments) in its entirety. Thank you -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Carpenter" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 10:39pm To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Why not an IBM personal use z/OS license? On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:50 AM, David Boyes <[email protected]> wrote: >> IMO, FWIW (other acronyms omitted) I would love something like z/PDT for >> a home user. The "problem" that I perceive that IBM has with such a thing >> can be summed up as "somebody could use that to make money developing >> software and I won't get a fair cut." IOW, IBM doesn't think that a >>"personal copy" would only be for learning purposes, but would be >> "perverted" to actually make money. > > This discussion always makes me think of how other vendors respond to ideas > like this. > > DEC neatly solved this problem by making the "learning" copies of VMS capable > of only single > user on the system console -- unless you had permission for more. To go > multiuser or to login > anywhere but the physical machine console, you had to have a license that > authorized additional > users (1 to unlimited user). Historically, DEC (and later HP continued the > policy) was fairly liberal > with development licenses, and the user community responded by being adults > and not abusing > the privilege. > > IIRC IBM made some somewhat half-hearted attempts in the past to do something > like this but > got distracted by management changes and never followed thru. VMS still has a > fairly vibrant > software development community, and a lot of non-trivial tools are produced > by small vendors -- > very few CA/BMC/etc. scale vendors monopolizing the landscape. > Don't forget the completely free hobbyist and educational licenses. DEC started it, Compaq expanded it, HP/HPE has continued it, and VSI, the current keepers of the code, will also be continuing it. Those licenses, good for real hardware and free/commercial emulators, let you do just about anything with OpenVMS and >100 layered products so long as it's non-commercial. It's not only great for learning but lets retirees keep doing what they love and stay in the user community. We've got retirees enjoying helping other users and writing/porting programs and nobody has to pay them a penny! They win, OpenVMS customers win, and HPE and VSI win. Everybody wins! Jim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
