RS,

I should have elaborated more.  You need *a* system up and running on the box, 
but not *the* system.   For example we use TKE, and connect to a TECH system on 
the box that is running.   That tech system IMAGE profile is setup to be able 
to administer all crypto domains.   So when we bring in a new box, we ipl a 
tech system onto it, and then we can reload MK's for all domains, including 
systems that are not yet operational.  If there is a new MK waiting to load in 
the crypto card register, ICSF will load that MK automatically upon 
initialization.

I don't believe that there is a way to load MK's for other domains via the ISPF 
panels, but I could be wrong. 

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Implementing ICSF - FOTS1949 PRNG is not seeded

Well, again, this is straightforward approach: you have your own (or
dedicated) DR machine. You prepare your system for DR, part of preparation can 
be MK entry. That means *some* z/OS system IPL-ed, preferrably a copy of your 
prod system.
@David, AFAIK even with TKE station you have to IPL the z/OS...

Of course, if the machine is to be reused by other company, then leaving MK is 
not the best idea.

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland







W dniu 2016-10-20 o 17:18, Jousma, David pisze:
> If you have a TKE, then you can load it in advance.  If not then your only 
> option is to use the ISPF based ICSF panels.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Dave Jousma
> Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President
> [email protected]
> 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
> p 616.653.8429
> f 616.653.2717
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:06 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Implementing ICSF - FOTS1949 PRNG is not seeded
>
> Thanks. I'm on board except for this statement. "You can do [the Master Key] 
> in advance or during DR IPL." What is "in advance"? These systems are IPLed 
> only in DR (test) mode. Is there any alternative to actual IPL?



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