Yes, we tried that, and on our test plexes‎, but to no avail. As you say, it 
can generate tons of output, but unfortunately nothing to explain the problem.

We think now that different products use different ciphers to encrypt the 
session key, thus don't get the same answer.

Andy Styles
z/Series Systems Programmer
  Original Message
From: Lizette Koehler
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 18:36
To: [email protected]
Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Subject: Re: JES2 NJE Security


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You might look at the $TDEBUG command in JES2.  There is a parm that allows 
security messages to display from JES2.

It is humongous  - so do not leave it on too long.  It can flood syslog (and 
spool)

Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform)
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 1:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: JES2 NJE Security
>
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> That's exactly what we're doing - using the APPCLU class. We've asked CA, and
> they're looking into it (I believe, that's the domain of the security folks),
> but I wondered whether we're bleeding edge here or if anyone else had tried to
> do it..
>
> Andy Styles
> z/Series Systems Programmer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Walt Farrell
> Sent: 03 December 2016 13:54
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: JES2 NJE Security
>
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>
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:58:40 +0000, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform)
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >We're trying to put some security in place around JES2 NJE nodes, using the
> SIGNON=SECURE option (on the NODE statement). We've got it working RACF to
> RACF, but are having difficulty with a couple of other security managers,
> where the password stored in RACF doesn't appear to be accepted by the other
> ESM.
> >
> >Does anyone else have a mix of security managers, and use SIGNON=SECURE
> successfully?
>
> Just to be clear, I think you're talking about configuring your NJE signon
> security as described at
>   http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
> bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/has2a396/5.3.2.6?SHELF=all13be9&DT=20120815121029
> or
>   http://preview.tinyurl.com/jzbdwax
>
> I don't know if that will work with a mix of RACF and other security products.
> If CA supports the use of APPCLU session keys and you've configured the non-
> RACF systems according to the CA documentation, then I would expect it to
> work. I have no idea, though, whether CA supports that function, nor how it
> would be configured. You might need to contact CA for assistance.
>
> --
> Walt
>

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