Thanks for clearing it up.  Sometimes I have a problem understanding IBM speak.
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On Mon, 12/5/16, Robert2 Gensler <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: FLASHCOPY QUESTION
 To: [email protected]
 Received: Monday, December 5, 2016, 3:41 PM
 
 Hi Esmie,
 
 Yes, for all intents and
 purposes this means FlashCopy.
 
 Robert
 DFSMSdss Architecture
 and Development
 Tucson, AZ
 1-720-349-5211
 [email protected]
 
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 wrote on
 12/05/2016 10:20:10 AM:
 
 > From: esmie moo <[email protected]>
 > To: [email protected]
 > Date: 12/05/2016 10:20 AM
 > Subject: Re: FLASHCOPY QUESTION
 > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
 <[email protected]>
 >
 > Good Morning Gentle
 Readers,
 >
 > Thanks
 very much for answering my question.  All your input has
 > afforded me additional knowledge aboug
 FLASHCOPY.
 >
 > Robert,
 I checked your suggestion about looking for ADR806I.  It
 > does appear on the output which confirms
 what you said:
 >
 >
 ADR806I (001)-T0MI (02), VOLUME SBR000 WAS COPIED USING A
 FAST
 > REPLICATION FUNCTION.
 >
 > Thanks for the tip. 
 Just to clear up my understanding, does FAST
 > REPLICATION FUNCTION mean the same as
 FLASHCOPY?
 >
 > Thanks
 again.
 >
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 > On Sun, 12/4/16, Robert2 Gensler <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 >
 >  Subject:
 Re: FLASHCOPY QUESTION
 >  To: [email protected]
 >  Received: Sunday, December 4, 2016, 8:37
 PM
 >
 >  Hi Esmie,
 >
 >  DFSMSdss will
 notify you if
 >  FlashCopy was used by
 issuing an ADR806I in the
 >  sysprint
 output.  You do not see any evidence
 > 
 in the sysin because, by
 >  default,
 COPY
 >  operations use what is called
 FastReplication(PREFERRED).
 >  There is
 a FASTREPLICATION keyword on the copy
 > 
 command that has three
 >  different
 >  sub-parameters.  You can read about the
 details in the
 >  manual.
 >  FCNC is another parameter that
 >  controls how the FlashCopy is made, but
 it
 >  does not control whether or not
 FlashCopy is
 >  used.  That is
 controlled by
 >  the
 >  FASTREPLICATION keyword (or default). 
 Typically FCNC is
 >  used when you
 >  are going to dump the target
 >  of the FlashCopy to tape and in the
 course of
 >  that DUMP command you
 withdraw the original
 >  relationship
 with the
 >  FCWITHDRAW keyword.
 >  Another keyword to investigate using is
 DEBUG(FRMSG
 >  (...)) because if
 FlashCopy was not used, the
 > 
 DEBUG(FRMSG(...))
 >  specification will
 control
 >  how detailed the returned
 information is.
 >
 > 
 Thanks,
 >  Robert
 > 
 DFSMSdss Architecture
 >  and
 Development
 >  Tucson, AZ
 >  1-720-349-5211
 >  [email protected]
 >
 >  IBM Mainframe
 Discussion List
 >  <[email protected]>
 >  wrote on
 > 
 12/03/2016 08:58:21 AM:
 >
 >  > From: esmie moo <[email protected]>
 >  > To: [email protected]
 >  > Date: 12/03/2016 09:01 AM
 >  > Subject: FLASHCOPY QUESTION
 >  > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion
 List
 >  <[email protected]>
 >  >
 >  > Gentle
 Readers,
 >  >
 > 
 > I have a question
 >  about
 FLASHCOPY using  ADRDSSU and COPY.  In my
 >  > first example I was told that the
 job is
 >  using FLASHCOPY.  However
 I
 >  > do not see
 >  any evidence.
 > 
 >
 >  >
 >  COPY
 FULL INDYNAM (SDB000) OUTDYNAM (MDB000)
 >  DUMPCONDITIONING
 > 
 > ADR101I (R/I)-RI01
 >  (01), TASKID
 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'COPY
 >  '
 >  >
 >  > From my
 > 
 understanding it is performing a full volume copy of a
 >  > source volume.  If my
 understanding of
 >  the parm
 DUMPCONDITIONING is
 >  > correct,
 >  it (DUMPCONDITIONING) allows to make a
 copy of the source
 >  > volume and
 while keeping the target volume
 > 
 online.
 >  >
 > 
 > I have
 >  done a full volume copy
 of a source to target without the
 > 
 > DUMPCONDITIONING parm and it worked - the
 >  volume was fully copied
 >  > (see below).
 > 
 Am I missing something? Aren't both examples doing
 >  the
 >  > same
 thing?
 >  >
 > 
 >   COPY  INDDNAME(DASD1)
 > 
 OUTDDNAME(DASD2) -
 > 
 >   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP COPYVOLID
 >  PURGE
 >  > /*
 >  >
 >  > However
 I do not see any evidence of
 > 
 FLASHCOPY being invoked because
 >  >
 the
 >  FCNC parm is not present.
 >  >
 >  > Here is
 a my second example:
 >  >
 >  >  COPY FULL
 > 
 IDY(PROM70,3390) ODY(SNAP63,3390) DUMPCOND FCNC-
 >  > ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR
 PURGE
 >  FCTOPPRCPRIMARY -
 >  >
 > 
 FCSETGTOK(FAILRELATION)
 >  >
 >  > In the above example FLASCHOPY is
 being
 >  performed because of the
 FCNC.
 >  >
 > 
 > Could you correct my understanding of all
 >  3 examples?
 > 
 >
 >  >
 > 
 Thanks.
 >  >
 > 
 >
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