something like that, at least in the Philly site we were Big Iron, and VAX/VMS 
and some off the wall Cray (like) servers, STS systems, the big push was to 
RS/6000 running at the time AIX 4.3, because the new director didn't want the 
cost of upgrading the CATIA mainframe. 
by the time distributed CATIA was production at this location, it was time for 
a hardware refresh followed by a software refresh for thousands of RS/6000's - 
like painting the Golden Gate bridge, once complete, time to start over again. 
staffing that enterprise was a nightmare 
now with the advent of virtualization in the open systems world this made life 
somewhat easier - so I'm told. 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Allan Staller" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 2:17:27 PM 
Subject: Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services? 

The way I heard the story: 

Big Iron is too expensive. Get Off! 
Migrate to VAX (many). 
Oops! Too many VAX's. Get Off 
Migrate to Amdahl! (Big Iron). 

<snip> 
I found this out some time ago working for Boeing, even though we were one 
company, we still had to submit a budget each year for computing services, this 
drove Boeing Helicopters to look at alternatives, mostly the costs of CATIA and 
CADAM, on Big Iron, distributed was initially cheaper, but in the long run many 
cost overruns due to poor planning and a desire to 'just get off the mainframe 
at any cost', that's what drove us to look at consolidation afterwards, then 
migrations to / from other platforms....if it made sense :) 
</snip> 



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