I sent a request to Listserv Thursday afternoon: SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Skipperoo Robinson
I have not received any reply in my inbox. Today I sent the same request from my home email (ATT/Yahoo/Outlook) and got back an immediate response. My analysis: There is something missing in the confirmation email that causes my company email system (Outlook) to reject the note as spam without notification. My home email does not have the same filter. I cannot look at headers for the failing notes because--I never get them. My earlier explanation is from memory of a past conversation with an email tech who was able to look at a rejected note. I don't recall the exact missing tag(s). Note that I get all actual posts from IBM-Main. I also subscribed to ISPF-L and TSO-REXX 'normally' and get posts there as well. As I mentioned earlier, I have the same problem with RACF-L as with IBM-MAIN. My current subscription to IBM-MAIN was activated manually in early 2016. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Evans-Young, Darren Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: (External):Re: HMC Mail domain I just also verified this with my gmail account. Valid From: tag. Darren ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: HMC Mail domain This problem hits close to the heart of IBM-Main. I discovered a while back that a new email address could not successfully be registered from within the company network. This might be for a new person or for someone whose email address had changed. After considerable frustration, I learned that the IBM-Main confirmation email sent to a new registrant has a blank 'From' tag. Not structurally invalid, not unregistered. Empty. I assume that it had always been thus, but we hadn't tried to register a new email address in quite some time. Meanwhile our email nannies had implemented a new 'security' measure to reject any email that did not specify a From id. The sender is not verified AFAIK; there just has to be one. The argument is that this one action filters out a lot of true spam. So the confirmation email from IBM-Main looks like spam and is deleted without notice to the recipient. I take it that this is standard List server software behavior. I cannot imagine a business justification for it, but it requires that any new IBM-Main (or RACF-L) user ask for manual intervention from the List owner to add the user by hand. We are not a giant company, but we have several thousand email users. The idea of asking for an exemption for a literal handful of affected users is daunting, especially because the problem could be solved by a simple software change on the List server. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: (External):Re: EXTERNAL: Re: HMC Mail domain In my humble opinion this is not a problem with HMC but network/email folks in the organisation. Any HMC name and domain has to be somehow "authorized" within company network. So, *some* effort has to be done, irrespectively of the name of HMC. If I could choose I would pay much more effort into customisation of HMC email content, to make it more clear and comfortable for users. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
