To answer your question about the Listcats I do them to compare (before and 
after reorg).
I do have a separate job to backup the dsns (using logical DFDSS) in case 
something goes wrong.
You recommend to DELETE and recreate it.  Is there a reason why I should do so 
because the EXPORT/IMPORT will take care of that function. 
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On Wed, 29/3/17, R.S. <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: REORGANIZING HSM CDS
 To: [email protected]
 Received: Wednesday, 29 March, 2017, 11:22 AM
 
 In short words, there is
 no black magic here, it is regular VSAM KSDS 
 cluster, so any method to reorganize it is
 OK.
 I don't like your job because of
 irrational CONDs and disputable 
 LISTCATs
 (why ?)
 
 In general:
 1. Check your clusters using LISTCAT and/or
 EXAMINE if you want, but 
 definitely review
 the output before next step or just skip this step.
 2. Do a backup, of course "manual
 backup", do not use HSM. It can be 
 REPRO, EXPORT, or dss DUMP/COPY RENAMEU or
 whatever.
 2.1 Make sure, your backup is
 valid. You are allowed to do another 
 backup, using other method. You are not allowed
 to proceed if you are 
 unsure about
 backup...
 3. Delete CDS (and recreate it)
 and copy data from the backup to new 
 empty
 dataset.
 4. Have  a beer...
 
 BTW: it is good idea to review
 CDS parameters, especially space allocation.
 BTW2: For the step 2 I would consider REPRO
 OFILE(OUT) with //OUT DD 
 DISP=(,CATLG),LIKE=INPUT.FILE
 
 HTH
 
 -- 
 Radoslaw Skorupka
 Lodz, Poland
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 W dniu 2017-03-29 o 16:43, John Dawes pisze:
 > G'Day,
 >
 > I am setting up a reorg job to reorganise
 the MCDS/BCDS/OCDS because they have reached the threshold
 of 95%.
 > I checked the doc IBM z/OS
 DFSMShsm Primer for an example.  I noticed that in the
 IMPORT step it is using parm IEMPTY:
 >
 IMPORT IDS(?UID.EXPORT.MCDS) ODS(?UID.MCDS) IEMPTY  because
 the cluster is being redefined.  Would it be a problem if I
 was not deleting the cluster and performed the IMPORT using
 the IEMPTY parm?
 > I have run a test with
 the IEMPTY parm and without and they both work.  My
 question is do I need to use the IEMPTY parm?
 > I read in the doc z/OS V1R9.0 DFSMShsm
 Storage Administration Guide that the IMPORT function
 redefines a VSAM data set by using a copy of the catalog
 information saved in the EXPORT copy of the data set
 >
 > Here is my jcl:
 > //STEP1    EXEC
 PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,NE)
 > //SYSPRINT DD 
 SYSOUT=*
 >
 //SYSIN   DD   *
 >   LISTC ENT(SYS2.MCDS) ALL
 > /*
 >
 //STEP2   EXEC PGM=IEFBR14,COND=(0,NE)
 > //MCDS    DD
 DSNAME=SYS2.MCDS.BKUP,UNIT=SYSALLDA,
 >
 //        DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(250,200))
 > /*
 >
 //STEP3   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,NE,STEP4)
 > //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
 > //SYSIN   DD   *
 >    EXPORT SYS2.MCDS ODS(SYS2.MCDS.BKUP)
 TEMPORARY
 > /*
 >
 //STEP4   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,NE)
 > //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
 > //SYSIN   DD   *
 >    IMPORT IDS(SYS2.MCDS.BKUP)
 ODS(SYS2.MCDS) IEMPTY
 > /*
 > //STEP5     EXEC
 PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,NE)
 > //SYSPRINT DD 
 SYSOUT=*
 >
 //SYSIN   DD   *
 >   LISTC ENT(SYS2.MCDS) ALL
 > /*
 >
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