Edward Gould wrote:

>>> TSO is dead, IBM wouldn’t offer a new product because it used TSO. What is 
>>> the IBM replacement and what is the migration path?  I have no problem with 
>>> terminating TSO but the functions it provides are still needed.

>Good question. One that has been asked many times. I have the impression IBM 
>is being mysterious here. We are pretty sure that there is no development 
>going on for current TSO and IBM is tight lipped on any possible successor (if 
>any).


My opinion: Think of a two horse wagon. One horse, TSO, is on the left side. 
Second horse, ISPF, is on the right side.

The code for TSO, ISPF (and driver/interpreter software for Clists and REXX) 
are so intermixed, full of things simply for backward compatibility.

So, replacing/upgrading one horse with a donkey or a buffalo will simply not 
work.

Look around in your TSO and ISPF - You will see ancient stuff like 'TSO/E - 
Information Center Facility' or 'Outlist Utility' (=3.6) or lot of (=6 or =3.4) 
commands like ACCOUNT, XMIT, etc. Are you using them or not? Whether you are 
using it or not, there are probably people who has no choice, but still use 
them.

Modifying them (TSO, ISPF, whatever) to use new z/OS facilities will 'break' 
many things in TSO and ISPF as well as hundreds of other software which are 
using ISPF panels like zSecure, DB2 utilities, monitoring software and 
automation software.

Even nice utilities like Search-For(E) are not upgraded or expanded, AFAIK.

Granted, there are many new nice things like Udlist for example, which I find 
very useful.

So, I also found out from IBM that TSO + ISPF and all these utilities are sort 
of 'functionally stabilized'. Simply just look at the ISPxLIB, you will be 
amazed to see how many datasets are associated with them. Dropping one DSN and 
you're basically dead.

Just my personal opinion, but I see those two horses as essential, killing them 
or dismount them, you're at a standstill. If you can replace those TSO/ISPF 
horses, say with an environmental friendly wagon-puller, then you are welcome 
to announce it here on IBM-MAIN.

... with the risk to tell all those vendors how to modify their own software to 
use your TSO/ISPF replacement.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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