It will come up with LOGREC full :) 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Bill Wilkie
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 9:17 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Logstreams
> 
> Thanks, and yes, It does fail without sys1.logrec.
> 
> 
> I can't believe the system can't come up without LOGREC. I would think it
> should issue messages but at least let you IPL.  Once you're up you can
> allocate a new one.  Maybe Z/os could even dynamically allocate one and just
> keep going.
> 
> 
> From what I can gather so far about Logstreams, it just holds a bunch of
> different logs like Operlog, LOGREC, etc. but the data is still in it's 
> original
> form as if it were read directly from the original data set.
> 
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
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> behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 3:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Logstreams
> 
> Logstream cannot substitute for the LOGREC data set at IPL, which others
> suggest is required. I checked our MSTJCLxx, but LOGREC is not named there.
> It is however named in IEASYSxx, where we have coded
> LOGREC=SYS1.LOGREC.$SYS&SYSCLONE ever since we moved to sysplex in
> the mid-90s. I cannot recall trying to IPL without LOGREC, but I imagine it
> would fail.
> 
> There are good reasons for moving to logstream, but the ability to IPL is not
> one of them.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 7:51 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: (External):Re: Logstreams
> 
> So does this mean the problem you are trying to solve by asking about
> logstreams is
> 
> Can I prevent my system from not IPL'ing if someone deletes SYS1.LOGREC?
> Will the logstream still allow me to IPL eve if SYS1.LOGREC is gone?
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Bill Wilkie
> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 5:51 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Logstreams
> >
> > Lizette:
> >
> >
> > I am not using logstreams yet. I am just looking into it.
> >
> >
> > The SYS1.LOGREC data set got deleted on our test system so we couldn't
> > IPL it. We ran a job from our other system to create a new one and it IPL'd
> OK.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on
> > behalf of Lizette Koehler <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:45 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Logstreams
> >
> > When you say you deleted a logstream - which one?
> >
> > If it is for Logrec, did you have the SYS1.LOGREC dataset still
> > cataloged and on the system?
> >
> > What was the corrective action that allowed you to IPL
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Wilkie
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:32 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Logstreams
> > >
> > > We accidentally deleted Logrec on one system, and couldn't IPL. Not
> > > sure if logstream being available would have made a difference.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> 
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