Ditto with a foreign distributor. Blatant, intentional rip-off (at my former 
company). They took us for a little, and the same distributor took another US 
vendor whose name you would recognize in a heartbeat for a whole lot -- more 
than 7 digits, apparently, for a company that was only doing in the mid 7 
digits total.

We also (at my former company) had a US mainframe customer who apparently 
ripped us off intentionally.

And yes, with the complexity of modern 'plexes and licenses, we have at my 
current employer had customer, ahem, misunderstandings.

Charles


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Ed Jaffe
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Potential stupid question - MSUs

On 10/18/2017 9:46 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> I've been in this business for decades and have never once observed a 
> deliberate conspiracy to cheat a vendor. Frequent ads about 'piracy' conjure 
> up boardrooms full of Captain Hooks comparing the size of their parrots while 
> they chart cheating schemes. It doesn't happen.

It HAS happened! I am aware of one case in particular in which a foreign 
distributor sold PSI software to numerous "off book" customers he never told us 
about. It wasn't until we received a technical support query that the scheme 
was finally uncovered! What a lose-lose mess that turned out to be. Those 
customers had paid in good faith and yet we never received a dime.

> OTOH I've become aware of a few unauthorized or inadvertent violations. One 
> involved a cowboy operator who copied an ISV product to an environment for 
> which it was not licensed. He thought he had found a better way to do his 
> job. Nasty fallout. Another case concerned PSF, where the contract specified 
> a certain volume of AFP print--not CPU MSUs. No one noticed that the limit 
> had been exceeded until a routine IBM audit revealed the excession. The piper 
> was paid.

It's not unusual for users/operators/admins to be unaware of specific T&Cs 
specified in software contracts. In the old days, customers would license 
software everywhere so compliance was trivial. (Just pay the
bill.) But, in today's price-conscious, cost-cutting world, it's not unusual 
for customers to license software to a bare-minimum, limited subset of 
execution environments. As a result, accidental violations of software 
contracts are on the rise. This had led to direct customer requirements to have 
software *block* users/operators/admins from accidentally violating T&Cs agreed 
to by the corporation. FWIW, the support we provided to enforce this has been 
well received...

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