On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:21 AM, David Crayford <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 19/10/2017 9:10 PM, John McKown wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:47 AM, David Crayford <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Kirk!
>>>
>>> Using your _BPX_SHAREAS=MUST tip with __spawnp2() I was able to knock up
>>> something similar to COZBATCH. While not anyway near as comprehensive it
>>> does allow us to ship a batch job utility that can install a web server
>>> from a PDS pax member using a script inspired by your Tomcat installation
>>> comments. It was surprisingly easy using pipes and select() as you
>>> suggested. It's mind boggling why the IBM utilities are so poor.
>>>
>>
>> ​If you're talking about BPXBATCH in the "so poor" comment, I'd guess that
>> it was determined to be needed "late in the game". So something was
>> written
>> quickly to get some basic functionality going. It then became enshrined in
>> the temple of backward compatibility. ​And now, as is often asked, what do
>> we want IBM to stop doing in order to "fix" BPXBATCH to "run reasonably"?
>> IMO, what IBM needs to do is license COZBATCH from Dovetailed Technologies
>> and distribute it with z/OS. There is precedent for this because JZOS
>> (Java) was original a Dovetailed Technologies product.
>>
>
> Why don't IBM just provide a BPXSHELL program that does the right thing?
> It's a piece of cake to implement and AOPBATCH already does it, which is an
> IBM product.


​Ah, and so you answered your own question. You want a good IBM UNIX JCL
invocation program? Just buy the product which supplied AOPBATCH ! {grin} I
will agree with you if you say that IBM should just include AOPBATCH with
z/OS​, with BPXBATCH being an alias to it. But then why should IBM give
away what they currently get money for?


> I use COZBATCH but we can't ship it to customers so that's why I wrote my
> own. I can't talk for Kirk and Steve but I don't think they want to sell
> their Co:Z toolkit to IBM when they have plenty of customers paying for
> support.
>

-- 
I just child proofed my house.
But the kids still manage to get in.


Maranatha! <><
John McKown

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