On Nov 1, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> In the big view, system symbols are over 20 years old. For many years, 
> symbols were honored for STC and TSU but not for batch. IBM was reluctant to 
> support batch for reasons mentioned by Lizette and others. I participated in 
> more than one open discussion at SHARE where different folks had very 
> convincing reasons for symbols to be substituted in various incompatible 
> ways. But symbols had to be managed in only one way, and there was forceful 
> disagreement.
> 
> So IBM left it up to the customer whether to honor symbols in batch. If it 
> works for you, turn it on. Otherwise don't. But you should move gradually. Be 
> prepared to back out. Since system symbols in batch are a (relatively) new 
> thing, you need to verify that in your environment you get the results you 
> expect. Caveat emptor.  


Thanks for all the responses. If you care about why I asked, I’ll add an 
explanation. Feel free to skip the rest of this if you don’t care.



Almost 20 years ago we wrote our own, in-house batch scheduling system. It 
doesn’t require analysts to write JCL; they enter the characteristics for their 
jobs, steps, and data definitions via forms and then the scheduling system 
generates the JCL at submission time. Today, there is very little hand-written 
JCL in our environment.

This is great, but our system doesn’t integrate very well with non-mainframe 
processes, and that sort of integration is becoming increasingly important. 
We’ve acquired a commercial job scheduling system (Stonebranch Universal 
Automation Controller, if it matters) which handles that kind of integration 
well but of course doesn’t generate JCL.

Our in-house system is able to include things like time stamps at certain 
places when it generates the JCL, but anything that uses UAC won’t have that, 
so I was investigating the possibility of using system symbols. Since we only 
have a single LPAR and so little user-written JCL, I think we should be able to 
do this without many problems.

Thanks again.

-- 
Pew, Curtis G
[email protected]
ITS Systems/Core/Administrative Services


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