Ya know, I almost replied but read the whole post and realized it was a tongue 
in cheek statement.

;-D an

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On: 06 January 2018 12:43, "Beverly Caldwell" <[email protected]> wrote:
OK OK OK Take a joke can you? Or is that not allowed on this board?  I was
being somewhat facetious. I was referring to IBM's tendency to surround
everything they do with some sort of mystical complexity.

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 8:47 PM, Ron hawkins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Kirk,
>
> Auribus teneo lupum.
>
> Sharing SMS managed outside of SMS is on the cardinal sins of SMS.
>
> It is more than just aid to allocation, but also an enabler of function.
> If your LPAR doesn't read the NVR, then your open is dead in the water,
> right?
>
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Beverly Caldwell
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 1:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] catalog doubt
>
> What is a catalog?. It's a list of files and where they can be found. What
> is SMS management? It's basically an aid to allocation. Simple right? NO
> We're IBM and nothing is allowed to be that simple.
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Kirk Wolf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Beverly Caldwell
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > ..
> > > Now if you really like banging your head against a brick wall, try
> > dealing
> > > with datasets which are SMS managed on one LPAR but are not
> > > cataloged to the LPAR you are on. If you want to access those you
> > > really will have fun and you'll be wondering why on earth you got
> > > into this mainframe cr/\p in the first place.
> > >
> > > You are exactly right, Beverly!   I had to deal with this recently and
> it
> > was a major PITA.   Its like IBM never considered all of the real-world
> use
> > cases.
> >
> > Kirk Wolf
> > Dovetailed Technologies
> > http://dovetail.com
> >
> > >
> > >
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