Oh, and that reminds me...with regards to:

"Page add a temp volume, Page delete one old volume, replace it on new dasd, 
repeat for next volume"

Dynamically moving LOCAL page datasets using this method is what I did too.  
Except that I had an entire set of "temp" local page space so that I could move 
them all at once, once they were not in use.   One thing to keep in mind though 
is to use the PD with REPLACE option.   This keeps the ESQA usage "normal".   
Otherwise if you just do a bunch of PA's followed by PD's, you will really use 
a bunch of ESQA that won't be relieved until next IPL.  Here is some of the 
relevant doc from the manual.

PD {DELETE,PAGE={dsname ,dsname ...}                          
                                                              
    {REPLACE,PAGE={(dsname,rdsname) ,(dsname,rdsname) ...}}   
                   
If possible, use the PAGEDEL REPLACE option instead of the DELETE option    
to avoid the ESQA storage usage associated with the DELETE option. With the 
REPLACE option, slots are migrated from the old data set directly to the    
new data set without the need to keep track of the location of the migrated 
slots (thus eliminating the need for extra ESQA storage).                       
                                          

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Agreed.  If you have a large MASDEF and you try to list volume stats from a 
different system, it can take quite a while for the info to come back.  
Suggestion is shared checkpoint volumes be at 100 at all times, or gen the 
checkpoint volume to just the systems that use it.
for MASDEF=99999999.  Page add a temp volume, Page delete one old volume, 
replace it on new dasd, repeat for next volume, FDRPAS / TDMF / EMC z/OS 
Migrator all work great, move volumes during normal work hours.  IPL over the 
weekend on new volumes.
TDMF had a whole list of what products / datasets had to be closed for the 
swap.  Follow religiously or you get unexpected hangs.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Reno Puntillo <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have used TDMF many times in the past to move JES2 Spool and Ckpt volumes.
> For Spool and ckpt volumes try to move them one at a time as "special"
> volumes.   It used to be a planning consideration in the docs but in recent
> releases it doesn't seem to be an issue.   I try not to tempt Mr. Murphy
> when I can avoid it so I still only move one spool or ckpt volume at a time.
>
> For CKPT volumes you need to verify your HOLD parameter on your MASDEF 
> statement in the JES2 parameters.  If the HOLD is not specified then 
> it is the default of HOLD=999999999 which means JES2 will never release the 
> CKPT
> volume and the TDMF swap will never complete.   In the past you needed to
> change HOLD to something like HOLD=100 (one second) so that JES2 would 
> release the CKPT every second or so and then TDMF swap could get in and
> complete.   This may not be required any longer with the newer releases, you
> would need to verify it.   Again Murphy lives...
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Reno Puntillo
> R.Puntillo & Associates Inc.
> 647-779-8519
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: March 14, 2018 1:47 PM
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> Subject: TDMF and JES2 Spool volumes
>
> Any one used TDMF to move active/live/in-use JES2 Spool volumes?
>
> If yes, any considerations?
>
>
>
> Lizette Koehler
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