Yeah, I miss associative ranges.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Gibney, Dave <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell Plus some Wylbur :) > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell > > The ISPF WSA has worked well for me, except that the GUI doesn't support > block or multi-line copies. As for local SPF, the only decent one that I saw > was > Tritus SPF, and it's no longer available. If you can get the relevant bugs > fixed > then The Hessling Editor would be a good alternative, although it might be a > culture shock if you've only used ISPF. I've always wanted an editor that > combined the best features of ISPF/EDIT and XEDIT. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1QiXEbbnEZzxDjtudmnGqzubAeqZiNCrZ9ZsGFZUjeRdilTO9BCoryLjiV8kGhTaU916rcDONc-x4Zt_Ec7Rrp_AdFPcyYyjl_4DW77G0kpiO6v8OAm6jJhS84OEBZ6WPpTTbIld2QaOLROWBeqbd7eDTYya5IZV8qNDFhxd3E-pRYPBYb6RLxWpKFoWxLB2SOsRTYCXDcLi4WP6g9wwluBiAol1NmchfJZ8O-6eA42KxZMBOLCIe1hIoHYFaI6dHUW-eIXVj_Gzy_R3kdIlBDLoH84aioJUe7AVCZRoSSZG4e-FeEbswthAfaFjg8qkhMZ8u8yZrW_Fk3epd_YULcxxZbsOf488RkY7rfbo8qhhJSiPSUw2K7Y0OeZKPYLVF9-Mr3_CxQ2CHbQUCL_HgpBZCU3T0BH-lmX9y4XuS4po28_RVKLdwb3rXNL6E2Ewx/https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__mason.gmu.edu_- > 7Esmetz3&d=DwIFAw&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb- > Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w&m=NurkXqDNFcyUMZ96Hbabe6o_sv > 0coo_bU1MN2N2qbzQ&s=e-dc7QGNv1- > FiuvGXKfA3SqKUFON6hoeYq77LPMBJ94&e= > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf > of Steve Thompson <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell > > Where I am working, we use TSO/ISPF. We are working toward ISPW from > Compuware and an associated product. > > I'd be tickled if I could get a client/server thing going so I could do > editing on > W10 and then upload and compile/assemble. Of course I would expect/want > an ISPF emulation product in that case because I am very much tied to > excluding lines, columnar oriented editing, etc. which the IDEs currently > being used (so far as I know today) are oblivious to. > > If WYLBUR/AT would work, I'd be tickled pink, but it had a Y2K problem with > Windows!! And Addlerspare and Associates no longer support it (I don't even > know if they are in biz any more). > > Regards, > Steve Thompson > > On 03/15/2018 09:25 AM, John McKown wrote: > > As many may know, where I work now is really behind the times. So I > > thought that I'd ask here about what is the current methodology for > > program development. What I'm really getting at is whether people > > continue to use TSO ISPF or have most shops gone to using the Eclipse > > based "IBM Explorer for z/OS" (or is it "Rational Developer"? - what > > about the irrational developers, what do they use? :-}) > > > > Personally, I don't like TSO very much. I like ISPF fairly well. I > > wish that ISPF would could be run from a z/OS UNIX shell (the way TSO > > ISPF runs under a "TSO shell"). > > > > Any good YouTube videos that I could watch? Of course, the problem > > with that is that I'm not allowed to "waste bandwidth" watching videos > > here at work, so I end up watching them at home (when I do) instead of > > "Father Brown" episodes. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
