Phil,

It is funny they are trying to hide it. The information can be collected
from free resources like job seeking portals, linkedin searches, etc. it's
just a question of time one has to invest collecting this info. IBM or any
other vendor can't block clients from posting jobs.  As IBM claims they
achieved new clients (and they publish names from time to time, like the
south african bank). They should be proud they drive the world, don't they?

ITschak

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Phil Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> ITschak Mugzach wrote:
> >I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe
> market ...
>
> (And then after various discussion):
> >Strange it is so hard to collect this information.
>
> Why? It's proprietary information for IBM about their market. As a vendor
> for the last 35 years, I've wished for this information, but was never
> surprised that it wasn't available. Why would they want to release it?
> Sure, in boom times - at one point they said there were 20,000 VM
> installations. But that was a long time ago, and many of those were
> probably 9370s in a closet that were never really used. Now? All it would
> do is provide fodder for folks saying "See, the mainframe business is
> shrinking". (Whether that's true or not is irrelevant: the number of
> licenses is surely shrinking, as companies consolidate and few if any new z
> shops are created.)
>
> Best guesses I've seen in recent years: low thousands for z/OS; fewer for
> z/VM (still > 1K; I think); fewer still for z/VSE; and 150 max for z/TPF
> (perhaps half that).
> --
> ...phsiii
>
> Phil Smith III
> Senior Architect & Product Manager, Mainframe & Enterprise
> Distinguished Technologist
> Micro Focus (Voltage)
>
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