I seriously doubt that. Certainly I never heard the term in a computer context prior to the CLIP program of S/360.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Michel Beaulieu <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 10:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CLIP? Let me speculate that the term goes back to tape use: In these days, sometimes the first few inches or feet of tapes could become damaged so it would not be possible to load the tape and even less read the tape label or the data after that. I remember there was a little tool to make a clean cut or "clip" of the half inch tape so that it could load cleanly on the tape drive. Then you had some JCL to put a new label on the tape. -- I hope this helps! Michel Beaulieu IBM Services (Canada). |*| ________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]> Sent: May 19, 2018 12:12:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CLIP? I got into this biz in the late 70s. The term CLIP was common parlance for 'label reformat'. I still have several canned JCL members with 'CLIP' in the member name. If nothing else, the term is unique, while 'reformat' could have any number of meanings. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 8:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: (External):Re: CLIP? To answer your question, "as opposed to what", that would be "reformat". Tony Thigpen zMan wrote on 05/18/2018 10:15 PM: > I have to ask: "Change Label In Place" -- as opposed to what? Removing > the platter and sending it back to IBM to have the label changed? > > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:07 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson > <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Ooh, dueling acronyms. It's SCIDS all over again! >> >> . >> . >> J.O.Skip Robinson >> Southern California Edison Company >> Electric Dragon Team Paddler >> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager >> 323-715-0595 Mobile >> 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW >> [email protected] >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of graeme >> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 4:33 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: (External):Re: CLIP? >> >> Change Label In Place >> A standard card deck utility in the software FE toolbag 50 years ago. >> >> Graeme >> >>> On 19 May 2018, at 08:08, Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> I used the term CLIP (reformat label) today with a colleague who >>> clearly >> did not understand. Isn't it an acronym? I can't find any hits. >>> >>> . >>> . >>> J.O.Skip Robinson >>> Southern California Edison Company >>> Electric Dragon Team Paddler >>> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager >>> 323-715-0595 Mobile >>> 626-543-6132 Office <===== NEW >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
