The PTS, among others, was a PDS. SMP used very strange member names. There was no CSI, no zones.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Carmen Vitullo <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [External] Old School Maintenance Philosophy -- Never ACCEPT? CSI not VSAM ? Carmen Vitullo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alva John Nims (Al)" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:00:11 PM Subject: Re: [External] Old School Maintenance Philosophy -- Never ACCEPT? " I learned to use SMP back on MVT (am I the only one still here that can truthfully make that statement?)" Answer: No, yes I remember SMP back before the "e" was added on, the CSI was a PDS! And not a PDSe! I do not follow the 'Never ACCEPT" process. Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer III UF Information Technology East Campus P.O. Box 112050 Gainesville, FL. 32611 (e) [email protected] (p) (352) 273-1298 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David L. Craig Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [External] Old School Maintenance Philosophy -- Never ACCEPT? On 18May23:1247+0000, Pommier, Rex wrote: > > Not sure how long ago eons was, but I started in the mid-80s on MVS/SP > and at my first SMP/E (and I believe > only) class, I was taught the APPLY / run for a while / ACCEPT usage - > except for USERMODs or APARs that hadn't had a published PTF yet. I learned to use SMP back on MVT (am I the only one still here that can truthfully make that statement?) and while it's been a while since I last used SMP/E, I do not recall ever encountering a no ACCEPT policy for any IBM MRM. But people aren't mentioning policy for archiving snapshots of target and DLIB volumes and restoring therefrom--much faster than reAPPLYing LOTS of maintenance. That also requires tracking the target/DLIB volume snapshot associations, which are not necessarily based upon the dates of the snapshots. -- <not cent from sell> May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig______________________________________________ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe." __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
