W dniu 2018-09-12 o 19:13, Tom Mathias pisze:
With the HMC 2.14 level, all FTP (and FTPS/SFTP) operations that originate in 
the SE really proxy thru an HMC.  The HMC must have the SE defined into it and 
it.  This means that uou need to make sure that at least one HMC can get to the 
FTP server that the SE wants to access.  These are the only two things needed 
from an SE/HMC standpoint.  The SE will automatically look at all HMCs defined 
into it and try to find one that can get to the remote server.  No special 
configuration is needed for FTP.  However, if you want to use SFTP then you 
will have to set up the SSH keys on the HMC that will be needed for the HMC to 
be able to communicate to the SFTP server.  Likewise, if you want to use FTPS, 
then the certificates have to be set up on the HMC to allow the HMC to 
communicate to the server.  For redundancy, it is recommended that you have at 
least 2 HMCs that can get to the remote servers.

The other thing you might have to do is to work with your networking people as the HMC(s) 
now need to be able to get to the FTP/SFTP/FTPS server(s).  Since you said that you tried 
FTP and based upon the "host unreachable" message, I think you need to check to 
make sure that you have at least one HMC that can get to the FTP server and that has this 
specific SE defined into it.  If the host you are trying to reach is a symbolic name, 
then you might also want to review the DNS setups.

You then asked what happens if you have an SE userid of SYSPRG2 and an HMC 
userid of SYSPRG2.  These are really separate.  They can have different 
passwords.  If you walk up to the HMC, you are using the SYSPRG2 userid on the 
HMC, so you use that password.  If you walk up to the SE, you are using the 
SE's SYSPRG2 userid and therefore you would use that password.  Now if you are 
on the HMC as SYSPRG2 and use Single Object Operations, then the HMC manages 
the logon to the SE and effectively you will log into the SE as the SE's 
SYSPRG2 userid.

Now if you don't have a userid on the SE with the same name as the SE (in your 
next example, the one that is the sum of ACSADMIN and SYSPROG), then the Single 
Object Operations code will wind up using an ID based upon the permissions of 
the made-up id.  In this case, you are reporting that it chose SooAcsadmin.  
That is basically the ACSADMIN and as you know, its tasks are different that 
SYSPROG.  Unfortunately because the SE and HMC have separate userid databases, 
there is no simple solution.  You could create an SE-based ID with the same 
name as the permissions you want, but the drawback is the work you would have 
to do.  Alternatively, you could create and use different HMC userids; one for 
SYSPROG and one for ACSADMIN and use the appropriate userid when you want to 
access the SE via Single Object Operations.

Finally, regarding your hostile HMC topic.  If this is a concern, then you 
should set up Domain security (now the hostile HMC would have to know settings) 
and/or prevent a hostile HMC from accessing your SEs via the network.  This 
could be via your network router (most current network routers have the ability 
to restrict who can physically access a network), firewalls, etc.., or even 
ensuring physical security to the network in your server room (and no way to 
access the SEs from outside of the secure area) or some combination of all of 
the above.

So, as an example, maybe in your case your networking people can set up your 
network to only allow devices with specific mac addresses (i.e. your SEs and 
HMCs) and you can set up domain security.  Then the only way a hostile HMC 
could get access would be if the network was updated to allow it to be on the 
network and if the hostile HMC knew the correct security information

Tom

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I confirm, I had problems with my network. Now ftp works fine, as you said. To describe it: In order to import source file I have to use SE panels, then choose ftp otpion, but the ftp session is between my PC (ftp server and HMC (ftp client which relays the file to SE).  No direct access to SE is needed.
It is big change for me, thank you for the enhancement!

Regarding userids on SE - I saw some presentation where it's suggested to disable or even delete IBM-supplied userids *on HMC*. What about SE? Is it also advisable to delete or disable IBM-supplied userids on SE?


While I still hate Tree Style UI, I see a lot of improvements in HMC 2.14.
To name a few: userid name in upper corner, search (great!), user management (actually it's not new), browser tabs, lack of java...

Regards
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland




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