agreed

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: get ECSA key 7 storage under CICS

Yes, there have been and are far too many incompetent auditor, but there are 
good auditors and a good auditor is your friend.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Elardus Engelbrecht <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 9:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: get ECSA key 7 storage under CICS

Allan Staller wrote:

>I have not seen a competent auditor for the mainframe in about 30
>years. <G>

You're late. ;-)

Some auditor-bashing text in IBM-MAIN over the years:


My own pondering about auditors:

"In a galaxy far far away on a very lonely planet full of hungry aliens some 
centuries ago, I have a really hard time to convince auditors and management 
that I don't need no stinking ADSP in RACF. ;-)"

My conclusion: "I'm very sure those auditors are in for a serious 
*re-education* ;-D"


Tom Kern said:

"Our auditors don't think that way. They think a computer is a computer is a 
computer and they all run windows and they all need McAfee AntiVirus because 
that is what the windows team said they run on all the desktops. So we were hit 
because we did not have McAfee on the z890. PS. They did not appreciate my 
picture of the z890 with a McAfee box on top of it."

My reply to Tom:

"Ask the auditors to go to McAfee/Symantec/Kaspersky/Norton/etc and ask that 
vendors if they have any software for z/OS...
Offer them a free lunch if they indeed find one."

Scott Ford also wrote:

"I understand the auditors have a job to do, no issue. I can remember one 
auditor telling me to pull superzap off our box and re-link when we needed. I 
rolled my eyes, I couldnt believe what I was hearing."

Just search IBM-MAIN and RACF-L archives. There are too many bashing of 
auditors.

Have fun. ;-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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