Gil,

I agree , I work VM for yrs then switched to MVS. I missed CMS and xedit,
sMSG.
I like Unix also, i.e.; Linux . A lot of flexibility and power

Scott

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:14 PM Paul Gilmartin <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 19:20:43 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> >
> >Yes. Specifically,  WITH input_redir [output_redir] [error_redir] .
> >
> >>  Pointless for CMS or TSO since the concept of standard input/standard
> output is alien to each.
> >
> >Perhaps pointless for CMS, but the TSO stack has all of the necessary
> facilities. TSO commands do not normally BSAM/QSAM or TGET/TPUT for line
> mode terminal I/O, but use service routines.
> >
> Errrr ...:
>     //STEP  EXEC  PGM=IKJEFT01 ...
>
> (But am I overlooking your "normally"?)
>
> The thing I find brilliant in UNIX design is (accidentally) implied by the
> first three letters: a oneness.  Things work the same in foreground and
> batch.
> There's no TGET versus LINEIN versus SYSTSIN versus SYSTERM versus SYSIN
> versus ...
> There were few enough designers that that they could reach a consensus.
>
> Maybe it's Brooks's fault for underrating timesharing.
>
> -- gil
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