Ah yes... The good old days, when the question may have been as you wrote: "if you were new to this platform, how would you ever guess that the tool to copy a file (oops, dataset) was named IEBGENER and was documented in a manual named "DFSMSdfp Utilities"? Wouldn't it be great if a newbie could just go "Watson! How do I copy a file?""
The answer would have been IEBGENER if the dataset happened to be SEQUENTIAL, but not if it was PARTITIONED. And certainly not if it was VSAM. Written (half) in jest... :-) Regards; Phil -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, 17 June 2019 4:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Need for a z/OS "master index" (Was RE: LOAD/LINK exit) Exactly! You hit on one of the other problems: when you find an answer, how do you know it is THE answer? OGET. OPUT. ISPF 3.3. Etc. In fact the original question here is a matter of finding AN answer (CSVLLIX1 -- but no good, it only does LLA) and then it turning out there was ANOTHER answer that did indeed fill the bill. Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 12:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Need for a z/OS "master index" (Was RE: LOAD/LINK exit) I thought that the program to copy a dataset was IDCAMS. IEHMOVE? IEBCOPY? The COPY command from COPY, FORMAT, LIST and MERGE (sic)? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Charles Mills <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 12:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Need for a z/OS "master index" (Was RE: LOAD/LINK exit) Yes! I remembered this exit being added to z/OS. I looked and looked and looked at Installation Exits and when I could not find it, figured I must have read more into CSVLLIXn than really existed. z/OS desperately needs some sort of "master index." IBM has the AI to be able to put up a site that could answer questions like "how do I monitor every FETCH or LOAD?" (or, for that matter, "how do I convert RECFM=U into RECFM=V?"). The platform really needs it. How often do we see questions here where the answer is "it's right in the manual! RTFM you dummy!" The problem is "how would I know to look in that manual?" My favorite example: if you were new to this platform, how would you ever guess that the tool to copy a file (oops, dataset) was named IEBGENER and was documented in a manual named "DFSMSdfp Utilities"? Wouldn't it be great if a newbie could just go "Watson! How do I copy a file?" Just as an experiment, I just keyed "how copy a z/OS file" into KC and got lots of hits, but not one of them was for IEBGENER. Changing file to dataset at least gets me close: the fourth hit is for pervasive encryption and IEBGENER. Maybe we just need to learn to use KC more. You know what? I keyed the original question, "how monitor every fetch and load" into KC and the very first hit was for CSVFETCH. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient only and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable and/or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information is prohibited and may result in severe penalties. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all electronic and hard copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
