Charles,

In addition to reading about WTO, I would recommend reading the manual,

SA38-0666-30 MVS System Commands, Chapter 3. This tells you about how MVS 
consoles can be configured. See Chapter 3. Also look at the CONTROL command in 
chapter 4.

Some clues,
. Consoles can be in different modes, e.g. Roll or Roll-deletable.
. Consoles screens can be divided into different areas.
. The MVS command CONTROL (or K)  controls all these functions.
.  If you enter K commands without parameters on a console the current values 
are reflected into the command area, so they can be modified. (Not sure if this 
is true for all K commands, but works for K A for areas, and K S which controls 
the mode of operation.

I agree with the suggestion of getting access to an SMCS console to improve 
your understanding.

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd  

Web:              www.rsmpartners.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Charles Mills
Sent: 27 June 2019 00:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] WTO for message that will require explicit deletion?

Okay, anyone have any clues as to how to align the stars?

My "console" experience is with SDSF LOG, not a real console, so my perception 
of where messages hang is a little skewed I guess.

Charles


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 3:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WTO for message that will require explicit deletion?

Non-rolling (no delete) messages do not hang 'at the bottom'. They hang as high 
as they can based on any other non-rolling messages that preceded them. A 
non-rolling message that stays toward the bottom is there only because a lot of 
other non-rolling messages are preventing it from rolling higher. 

Getting the attributes right for a non-rolling message can be tricky, including 
the status of the task that issued it. If the stars are aligned, a message can 
'stay on the screen' indefinitely as long as console mode is RD and the task 
that issued it is still active. 

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