Agreed completely with your last 2 statements. The RELFILES aren't used in the running system, only for installation. Accepting base functions immediately is a good thing. :-)
I don't see how SMP/E can use the TLIBs to populate the DLIBs. What would it copy across to the DLIB if, like in the OP's case, he wants to ACCEPT the base code but there have been multiple PTFs installed to the TLIBs, most likely some being PTFs on top of PTFs and maybe an APAR and/or USERMOD installed. Whereas, the SMPMCS and RELFILES would have the original code shipped with the functions and PTFs. I found this snippet in the SMP/E commands manual under ACCEPT which indicates that if the software was shipped in RELFILE format, that's where SMP/E goes to do the accepts. <quote> If the module is packaged in a link library (LKLIB) or a relative file (RELFILE),SMP/E copies the module to the distribution library. Any aliases specified for such a module must exist in the LKLIB or relative file in order to be copied. </quote> I am pretty sure he won't be able to ACCEPT DB2 11 unless/until he can find the missing RELFILES. Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 12:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [External] Re: zOSMF software validation looking for *.F files That is why I asked Kurt Q. to jump in (in another post, not tracked below). I *think* the DLIBs are built from the TLIBs, but I am not sure. If this is the case, then no problem will occur. If the RELFILES *are* needed for the accept, then the OP has a problem, he can *never* run a ACCEPT for the current software. The rollout process is calling for some RELFILES that no longer exist. For a fair amount of work (I do not believe it is worth the effort) the RELFILES could be recreated from the TLIBS. I can pretty much guarantee that the RELFILES *ARE NOT* used by the running system, so dummy RELFILES can be supplied to satisfy the requirements of the rollout process. Moral of the story. ACCEPT the base functions immediately after successful APPLY. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 11:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [External] Re: zOSMF software validation looking for *.F files Allan, Are you sure the RELFILES aren't needed for the ACCEPT? In my old brain, I'm thinking that ACCEPT copies modules etc from the RELFILES. Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [External] Re: zOSMF software validation looking for *.F files Perhaps that will solve the OP's problem. Run the accept w/NOPURGE and then manually delete the RELFILES. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [External] Re: zOSMF software validation looking for *.F files There is definitely an option to not delete the RELFILES. PURGE/NOPURGE does this - part of the cleanup options. One purpose of this is if you are using a single SMP/E GLOBAL zone with multiple target and multiple distribution zones managed by it. You can use the NOPURGE to ACCEPT SYSMODS into the first DLIB zones then change to PURGE to accept into the last DLIB. Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [External] Re: zOSMF software validation looking for *.F files ACCEPT will absolutely clean up the relfiles. I do not recall if there is an SMPE configuration option to override this. If DB2 V12 is installed in the same SMPE environment as DB2 V11, I expect problems. The SMPE MCS for DB2V12 FMIDs most likely contains ++DELETE statements for DB2V11 FMIDS. HTH, -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [External] Re: zOSMF software validation looking for *.F files Bill, Presuming your DB2 12 install will be going into its own SMP/E environment and new target/distribution libraries, as soon as you have a successful base APPLY, you should be able to accept them. As a new install of a new release, what reason would you have to try to do a RESTORE? Doing this may clean up the RELFILES as well, depending on how your options are set. Obviously that is not the case of maintenance. For maintenance on the DB2 12, I would do similar as Alan mentioned. APPLY maintenance, then let it sit for weeks/months and then ACCEPT the PTFs - or wait for the ACCEPT until right before your next APPLY cycle. Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 9:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [External] Re: zOSMF software validation looking for *.F files Thinking forward to my v12 Db2 migration, at what point is it advisable to accept the base? As soon as I have my first system successfully migrated? Or right before the first maintenance Apply? thanks Bill ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. 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