I can pretty much guarantee that NASA wasnt writing programs in the late
1950's in machine language...

FORTRAN AND LISP were 704 languages.

Joe



On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 5:54 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

> Re 1957: with a SOAP II manual dated February 1957, how likely is it that
> the original SOAP was 1957?
>
> As for COBOL, the report of the CODASYL short range committee didn't come
> out until 1960, so no reasonable person can fault COBOL for not being
> available until 1960. Predecessors COMTRAN, FACT and FLOW-MATIC were
> available earlier.
>
> Was there a 702 AUTOCODER, or was 705 AUTOCODER the first?
>
>
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> Think back… think way back, possibly to before you were born. Think of
> the reasons why SHARE was founded in 1955, and the main activities of
> SHARE. Once upon a time, when electronic computing technology was still
> being figured out, each new machine was so different from its
> predecessors that it was necessary to rewrite a whole new set of
> utilities and drivers and applications for it. Even Assembly language
> wasn’t available until 1957 (and the first COBOL compiler didn’t come
> out until 1960) so most of this stuff had to be manually entered in
> machine language.
>
>
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>
> Um, no. ACM SIGPLAN History of Programming Languages Conference 1978
> article on FORTRAN says:
>
> Page 166 1.3 Programming Systems in 1954
>
> Most "automatic programming" systems  were either assembly programs, or
> subroutine-fixing programs, or, most popularly, interpretive systems to
> provide floating point and indexing operations.
>
> ---
>
> That's far beyond machine language three years before article claims
> anything more advanced than that was used.
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