Jake, this may be a bad analogy but think of a driver upgrade like a z/OS 
upgrade.  You are changing the base operating system used to run the hardware.  
It can touch all of the I/O features and other features in your box.  An 
example of the "other" features would be the CFCC level for a coupling facility 
lpar.  When you do the change dynamically the process has to be careful not to 
cause a disruption to any active processes running.  So the dynamic process 
takes longer to run.  I also think you have to be at a given MCL level on the 
current driver to support the dynamic change. 


Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support

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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 7:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SE/HMC driver update duration [EXTERNAL]

Out of curiosity why Driver update takes time .. What happens internally and 
what are set of action takes (apologies for my ignorance)

On Wed, 18 Dec, 2019, 5:42 PM Allan Staller, <[email protected]> wrote:

> I can believe Driver MCLs can take a long time on the support element.
> I do not agree with the HMC updated. I have never seen a HMC upgrade 
> take more than a couple of hours.
>
> My $0.02 USD worth.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 7:08 AM
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> Subject: Re: SE/HMC driver update duration
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> We have one CEC plus one SE and HMC.
>
> Updating from 32 to 36.
>
> On Wed, 18 Dec, 2019, 3:11 PM Jousma, David, < 
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I don’t know that a couple days are accurate, unless the CE just doesn’t
> > want to work more than 8 hours.   I will tell you though that it was a
> > lengthy process.   Probably 8-10 hours if I remember right when we made
> > that jump a year or so ago.   We normally allot 5-6 hours of time for IBM
> > to complete before our maintenance window, and in this particular 
> > case, we almost blew through our window of work because the updates 
> > ran so long.  WE now schedule a 12 hour window for IBM to do their 
> > work just because of this.  My team mate, might see this post and 
> > offer up a bit more information.
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