It was a typo. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. If you had used FORMAT extensively you'd make the same typo.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of David Spiegel <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 5:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Backward compat--how far? Hi R' Shmuel AMV"SH, "... MERDE ... " Was that a Freudian Slip or a typo? {;}-? Regards, David On 2019-12-18 17:11, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I thought that everyone using TSO Data set Utilities: COPY, FORMAT, LIST and > MERDE, 5734-UT1, had converted to ASI TSO Superset > (https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fasisoft.com%2Fproducts%2Ftso-superset-utilities&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc971c13c943f4ead24de08d784075295%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637123039349329554&sdata=5pNxIVvl4Eoos4Ixr7Kvi1uHceisuWl1qlgin4Zh7tQ%3D&reserved=0) > long since. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc971c13c943f4ead24de08d784075295%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637123039349339565&sdata=w47PKZXX7NfOoELvMJaEDLUCuin7Mv9NvyhDUISHgBw%3D&reserved=0 > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of > Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 12:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Backward compat--how far? > > We experienced a lot of brouhaha during Y2K preparation over the ancient and > venerable TSO Utilities: COPY/MERGE/... Their link edit dates were in the > early 1970s. We had to fight up the chain of command to avoid deleting them. > Of course they work as well--or poorly--today as they did in 1999. Sometimes > reason can prevail. > > As for ISAM, IBM provided a transparent conversion to VSAM in the 1980s. No > application code changes, but a huuuge improvement in performance. No charge. > > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Seymour J Metz > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 9:47 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: (External):Re: Backward compat--how far? > > Lots of OS/360 code can still be run unchanged. Some will take an ABEND S0C4 > due to accessing unassigned storage; that problem shouldn't exist for code > written for an OS/VS2 or MVS/SP system. > > ISAM may be an issue for some code, as may BTAM and QTAM.. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc971c13c943f4ead24de08d784075295%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637123039349339565&sdata=w47PKZXX7NfOoELvMJaEDLUCuin7Mv9NvyhDUISHgBw%3D&reserved=0 > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of > Rupert Reynolds <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 3:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Backward compat--how far? > > Another question, purely out of interest: > Can the old MVS/SP code still run unchanged? > I reminisced with a friend about the day he whinged about a 64k code segment > size on Intel micros and I out-whinged him with a 4k code CSECT :-) > > Can a modern z/OS installation still assemble, link and run the old stuff, > such as the typical local utilities we all saw: > > MYPROG CSECT > MYPROG RMODE ANY > MYPROG AMODE 24 > STM 14,12,12(13) > USING ... > > If so, that's quite an achievement, both in the changes and the flexibility > of the original design! > > Rupert > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
