Alas, [email protected] is my IBM address.  I generally use my personal 
account for mailing lists and open source involvement as that transcends my 
employer.  Sorry if that was confusing; I didn’t mean it to be.

Matt Hogstrom
[email protected]

“It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive."
— Hogstrom

> On Jan 13, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 19:41:07 -0500, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> 
>> That was my thinking too Paul.  We should be able to mask a lot of this in 
>> software and not have to do a lot of unnecessary “busy” work.  
>> 
>> Part of the challenge is to identify some behaviors that could be 
>> deprecated.  We have a lot of baggage in the z/OS wagon.   The defrag 
>> comment got me to thinking about possibilities that we at Ibm might start to 
>> consider
>> 
> "we at Ibm"?  But I see no IBM in your return address.  But some prefer to
> avoid such identification.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:21:22 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote:
>> 
>> ..., as long as z/OS still allocates data set space in a small number of 
>> extents when the data set is defined, these are still issues.
>>   ...
>> Can the pointer to the next track be on a different volume? One might 
>> argue that the notion of volumes is no longer as useful as it was with 
>> emulated volumes. That might be a valid argument, though eliminating the 
>> notion has consequences for things like spool volumes, page volumes. 
>> 
> Paging needs to be close to the hardware for performance.  Spool
> less so.  Early OS just used Classic data sets for spool.  There were
> operational problems, addressed by HASP.  IBM, characteristically,
> did not make such enhancements generally available, but restricted
> them to HASP/JES.
> 
>> What happens when additional drives are added to a DASD subsystem? Can 
>> a data set be spread across multiple DASD subsystems?
>> 
>> It is not clear to me that this kind of architectural change would be an 
>> improvement, especially for data sets that can be accessed randomly.
>> 
> Tunnel vision.  Indexing?
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs
> 
> As readers familiar with my biases, I'd urge that such enhancements
> ignore older conventions and concentrate on PDSE and zFS which have
> already overcome some of the older limitations.
> 
> Does PDSE versioning exploit CoW?
> 
> -- gil
> 
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