> Does anyone remember print dump? If you mean AMDPRDMP, sure. Isn't it still being used, under the covers? Thhe last I heard a lot of the IPCS formatting was the same code as AMDPRDMP formatting.
If you mean dumps printed on dead trees, does anybody not have nightmares about them? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Peter Relson [rel...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 8:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 64-bit application dump analysis [was: RE: Problems with ESTAEX invoked in AMODE 64 . . . ] <snip> what are application programmers coding 64-bit programs (well, 31-bit resident code that uses 64-bit storage areas, to be specific) supposed to use for abend debugging? </snip> The answer is SYSMDUMP or TDUMP with IPCS. Plus whatever other tooling you find that is helpful (Dave Cole's product and Fault Analyzer and maybe others have been mentioned). Plus, apparently, education for those sites that restrict IPCS unnecessarily. Perhaps it was not obvious, but anyone who has dealt with 64-bit storage in all the years of its availability would have seen that that data is not captured in the printable dumps. For someone new to 64-bit storage, that could be a surprise. But likely not to someone already using it. Does anyone remember print dump? That's now a quite distant memory to me. I suspect, but do not know for a fact, that there was some sort of statement made many years ago about IPCS being the strategic way to view dumps rather than the printable dumps. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN