I wouldn't expect each application programmer to do his own install; I'm not even sure that it would be possible, since it might have IFREQs.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: strange python announcement On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 18:31:42 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >As for installation, that comes with the territory. Unless it's bundled with >the OS, you need to install it. Maybe it's a hassle in windows, but in ArcaOS >and openSUSE installing a package from the repository is trivial. As long as >it's properly packagerd for SMP, it's easy in z/OS as well. I doubt that it's >any harder with VMSESS, or whater z/VM uses these days. > Add SMP/E to the list of facilities prohibited to application progammers. Easily enforced since IBM has for ten years required RACF authority. IBM's statement is that such authority should be granted only to highly trusted personnel. Apparently there's an integrity flaw that IBM elects not to fix, merely declaring that if something breaks it's the customer's fault. On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 21:15:06 +0000, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > >One problem with your advice is that many shops don't even allow application >programmers to even use shell access to z/OS. I happen to have it on my >employer's systems, but that's because I'm a particular kind of technophile >who at one time made good friends in the (then) MVS systems team who granted >me limited (20Mb old HFS home directory) access for research purposes on a >particular project. > And that's merely administrators' ignorance and paranoia. "Our grandparents made do without UNIX -- why should we need it now?" -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
