Tony, Also the Agile framework and not the Waterfall model of SDLC. I have used both written Cobol and Assembler in both. My impression is everyone is ‘hurrying up and rushing code’. If your code is very modularized then I feel AGile is ok.
Scott On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 5:42 PM Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> wrote: > That may be true to some extent. I haven't been to college (not counting > working at one) in decades. But back then I was getting a degree in > Accounting, and took ONE CLASS in programming - sounded boring, but I > figured I should know something about computers. I was immediately > hooked. We wrote a program in PL/C (on the blackboard) the very first day, > and I never looked back. Three or four or six weeks later I talked to a > student who was taking COBOL; they hadn't been allowed to touch a cardpunch > yet, and were just learning about the theory of loops. I had much the > better teacher, God bless him! > > By the way, Steve, I enjoyed your tagline :). > > --- > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > /* Beware of any Christian leader who does not walk with a limp. -Bob > Mumford */ > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Steve Thompson > Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 16:07 > > I have asked and been told that various universities do not teach > languages, they teach theory. So the students learn an object oriented > language such as C++ or Java online(?). > > The statements made and questions asked of/by contract programmers (off > shore) relative to COBOL — I believe it. > > Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. > Expct mistaks > > > --- On Apr 5, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Says here "COBOL is a dead language that hasn't been taught in most > > universities for decades, and the rare COBOL coders command anywhere from > > $55 to $85 an hour". > > > > I'm reminded that five or ten years ago one of my sons heard my standard > > rant #37 about mainframes, and thought maybe he should learn to work with > > them (thinking it might lead to job security, in which I imagine he was > not > > entirely wrong). For a few weeks I called around trying to find out > what it > > would cost me to rent space for two accounts on an IBM mainframe > somewhere. > > My questions must have been repeated here and there, for eventually an > IBM > > guy called me and said if I could get the local university to teach a few > > courses on mainframes, they'd have to rent space on a mainframe for the > > students and IBM would ~give~ me two accounts so I could teach my son. I > > did call one of the local universities, one I'd worked at for two years, > but > > couldn't drum up any interest. > > > > The IBM guy also said that companies were getting so desperate for > mainframe > > trainees that they were sponsoring college courses their own selves, > just so > > they'd have someone they could hire later. > > > > COBOL is by no means a "dead language", in any practical sense, but > > apparently the writer got it right that it isn't being taught in schools. > > > > Dunno about 55 to 85 $/hr, though, unless things have gotten a lot worse > > since I got into the security side. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
