On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:20:10 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike  wrote:

>It's legal to run z enabled Linux on Hercules. Not sure what you would
>achieve over just running Linux on Wintel but interesting in that you may
>then have marketable skills for a real z shop.
> 
Testing programs for z-compatibility.  The most obvious pitfalls arise from
endianness and type-punning.

I understand that some Hercules principals believe they could implement
STP and ICSF, not well documented in the PoOps, but choose not to
because of possible legal entanglements.

>You can run mainframe Linuxes without fear of the license police. RHEL and
>SLES are battle-hardened supported commercial editions. Of course there are
>also free-of-cost mainframe Linuxes:
>
>   - Fedora s390x <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/s390x>
>   - Debian s390 <http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/>
>   - Gentoo <http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml>
>   - Centos <https://www.centos.org/>, using RHEL instructions
>   
> <https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/pt-install-info-s390.html>
>   - openSUSE <http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Hercules_s390_emulation%22>
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:09 AM Arthur <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 9 Apr 2020 16:23:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
>> (Message-ID:<[email protected]>)
>> [email protected] (Bob Bridges) wrote:
>>
>> >This is new to me.  I've heard of Hercules, but I never
>> >heard that it is considered, or that IBM would like it to
>> >be considered, an illegal counterfeit.  Is there any
>> >ethical reason for that viewpoint?  No, forget "ethical";
>> >I guess I can make up my own mind about that (and there'll
>> >never be a consensus on it).  Is there any ~legal~ basis
>> >for the assertion?
>>
>> My understanding is that Hercules is perfectly legal and
>> ethical. However, running an unlicensed, copyright
>> operating system (such as z/OS) is quite a different story.
>> So, as people said, running MVS 3.8 under Hercules is fine,
>> but any later OS is problematic.

-- gil

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