Am I understanding this correctly?  BUFSIZE is 3992 at your sites, so a TGSIZE 
of 30 says that JES2 will build each track group big enough to hold 30 buffers 
of 3992 bytes or 119760 bytes.  How many 3390 tracks are required to hold this? 
 I just checked ours, and we're set at a TGSIZE of 33 which I think happened 
before my time.  Looking at the 3390 reference summary, my guess is that 
whoever set it figured that since the JES2 BUFSIZE is 3992, that the actual 
blocks are 3992 bytes, therefore 11 can fit on a track, so 3 tracks would 
equate to a TGSIZE of 33 for best utilization.  I'm thinking that is probably 
an incorrect calculation and my setting is wasting space.  Thoughts?

Thanks,
Rex

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Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:27 AM
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Subject: [External] Re: JES2 SPOOLDEF TGSIZE recommendation sought

Yea, just getting my coffee too...  Looks like TGSIZE is easy enough to make 
larger, no so much to make smaller....I guess if you are going to change, then 
make the change before you add the new volumes.   Once formatted, it doesn't 
change?

TGSIZE=nnn|30
Specifies the number (1-255) of JES2 buffers to be contained in a track group. 
JES2 uses this value to determine the number of tracks in a track group on each 
spool device. This is the default value for the number of track groups for each 
new spool volume added to the complex. Because the number of tracks in a track 
group will vary based on the track capacity of the device, the resultant value 
is rounded to the minimum integral number of tracks that can contain the 
specified number of buffers.
If you specify TGSIZE=, it must contain a value from 1 to 255. Regardless of 
the value specified, the minimum resulting track group size is one track and 
the maximum is the smaller of 255 and the number of tracks in the first extent 
of the SYS1.HASPACE data set with the least number of tracks.

Note: If you do not specify TGSIZE= as the same value on all members of the 
complex, JES2 might not use the value specified here for a new spool volume.
Performance Considerations: Attempt to tailor the value of TGSIZE to fit the 
majority of the jobs in your system. SMF type 26 records can be used to assist 
your choice of a value for this parameter.

Small values for TGSIZE= can cause an excessive number of track group 
allocations per job thus increasing processor overhead. For example, an IEFBR14 
job requires 13 spool buffers for control blocks and JCL data sets; therefore, 
set the value of TGSIZE= greater than 13. Large values for TGSIZE= can waste 
spool space and unnecessarily increase seek time.

Modification: Minimum action to modify is $T SPOOLDEF to increase and a JES2 
cold start to decrease.

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Richards, Robert B.
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:00 AM
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Dave, 

At your request! I should have provided it before...now where is that 2nd cup 
of coffee?

Bob
                                             
SPOOLDEF  BUFSIZE=3992,DSNAME=SYS1.HASPACE,DSNMASK=,    
          FENCE=(ACTIVE=NO,VOLUMES=1),GCRATE=NORMAL,    
          LASTSVAL=(2007.287,19:42:13),LARGEDS=ALLOWED, 
          SPOOLNUM=64,TGSIZE=24,TGSPACE=(MAX=2443200,   
          DEFINED=1900575,ACTIVE=1900575,               
          PERCENT=32.1218,FREE=1290076,WARN=80),        
          TRKCELL=3,VOLUME=JESS                         

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: JES2 SPOOLDEF TGSIZE recommendation sought

It would be helpful if you could post the output of a $DSPOOLDEF command.  We 
run with mod-54's with no issues.  Just make sure you code LARGEDS=ALLOWED

$SPOOLDEF                                               
SPOOLDEF  BUFSIZE=3992,DSNAME=SYS1.HASPACE,DSNMASK=,   
          FENCE=(ACTIVE=NO,VOLUMES=1),GCRATE=NORMAL,   
          LASTSVAL=(2007.294,12:08:34),LARGEDS=ALLOWED,
          SPOOLNUM=96,TGSIZE=30,TGSPACE=(MAX=2524640,  
          DEFINED=1202032,ACTIVE=1202032,              
          PERCENT=49.1162,FREE=611639,WARN=80),        
          TRKCELL=3,VOLUME=JESD                        
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Dave Jousma
AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering  

Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 
49546
616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717


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Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:49 AM
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For years, we have run with 3390-3 spool volumes and a TGSIZE=24. I am not sure 
when or why the default became 30 and why it was not changed in my shop. 
Probably the wisdom of it is not broke, do not fix it. Okay, so much for 
history.

Shortly, there will be a push to go to all higher capacity spool volumes. At 
the moment, it looks like we are going to MOD-27s. What I am trying to 
determine is a better value for TGSIZE given the migration to the MOD-27s. 
TGSPACE has recently been tripled (still relatively small at 2.4 million). The 
rest of the numbers associated with SPOOLDEF are defaults.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. If it matters, DS8886 DASD.

Thanks in advance!

Bob


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