I can agree with all that has been said but can also rebuke most of it even
with my limited knowledge. The VB Studio product is a reasonable attempt to
set standards for the programming model. I've been told it looks a lot like
Websphere Studio. I agree that the exam is no means to measure ability. I
am scoring at a passing level now and I have attempted only one actual form
application. There is a high level of effort in the product for supporting
the older COM applications and other, so called, unmanaged code. A surprise
considering the corporate history of leaving things behind. That leaves the
actual object model in comparison to the traditional methods of conducting
business. I'd like to find criticism here but the potential of objects and
the methods behind them are far reaching. To far to be dismissed.
  My time left in this business is limited but I jumped into a bottomless
pit from the beginning and to find it getting deeper is just part of the
ride. Thanks for the comments.

Steve Domarski     352-368-8350
Property Appraisers Office Marion County Florida USA



                                                                                
                                              
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Hello Dave,

Good Rant.  And I agree on all your points.
I think that you need to have one more point for problems though.

4) no Standards for PC programmers.

Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
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> Can I beg to differ. On the PC platform VB is
> perfectly usable for 99% of projects.
>
> The biggest problem with most software projects are
> not choice of platform or choice of implementation
> language. The biggest problems are :-
>
> 1) Not defining what you actually want the system to
> do.
> 2) Changing (1) after work gas started.
> 3) Expecting technology to solve what are people or
> process problems.
> 4) Expecting a system to do everything, inlcuding make
> the tea, without any management.
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