That's exactly what you would hear from me.
Well..... maybe not *that* bad, but... 

Ever since we installed the z890 we have had console
outages that have included ALL of the PCs on the private
ICC network, and that have only been corrected by 
varying off/on the CHPID at the HMC. (We have not
seen a situation where only one or more LUs were
disabled, but others worked. All or nothing here).

We have opened multiple hardware incidents with
IBM here in Israel, and our hardware support technician
has tried all sorts of changes (the OSA card, the
cableing, the network switch) but every month or so 
it happens again. "Get IBM to fix them" is easier 
said than done.

Luckily, our ops do have one 3270 emulator on an 
old  3174, which has been very helpful!

Interestingly, the network has *two* OSA cards,
but only the VM/VSE one with 4 terminals has 
caused problems. The other system, running 1 z/OS 
console, has never gotten stuck.

Shimon

On 16 Jun 2006 at 15:01, Alan Altmark wrote:

> On Friday, 06/16/2006 at 02:52 AST, "Hooker, Don - OIT" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thomas, though I have not personally seen it, I?ve been told we 
> experienced the 
> > same problem here with our 
> > 
> > VSE consoles.  We no longer use the ICC sessions for them.  Apparently 
> the VM 
> > consoles did not suffer.
> > 
> > I believe several people at the last WAVV mentioned having the same 
> problem.  I 
> > think they said that if they varied the
> > 
> > CHIPD  offline and then online again that the consoles could recover.
> 
> Hopefully each installation that experiences this problem opens up a 
> hardware PMR.  If they don't work, get IBM to fix them.  I don't want to 
> hear, 10 years from now, how "I tried the ICC 10 years ago and it didn't 
> work for me - I'll take an old-fashioned 3277 any day!"  :-)
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott

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