As an aside to this discussion of IBM VSAM:

Does anyone remember what happened with TYMVSAM from Tymshare Corp? It was
supposed to be some emulation of VSAM processing for CMS programs using
standard CMS files. 

/Tom Kern

--- Dave Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can I second this. This will also my employers plans
> to ditch VM as the auditor will not allow us to use
> unsupported software on mission critical systems
> 
> --- "Jones, Ian H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Thank you Mark. This is directed at IBM -
> > 
> > Auditors do not care tuppence whether a product is
> > 'stable'. If a
> > product is used to support a production workload
> > they expect it to be
> > *supported*. An auditor's reaction will vary from an
> > 'observation' that
> > an unsupported product is being used, to a
> > recommendation that use of
> > the product be discontinued. In a business
> > environment where auditors'
> > reports can cause a company to lose a contract, no
> > one can afford to use
> > unsupported software.
> > 
> > 
> > Ian Jones
> > UKOSG - Infrastructure Specialist
> > EDS
> > ITO - UK mainframe Software Services
> > 4 Roundwood Avenue
> > Uxbridge, UB11 1BQ
> >  
> > Phone: +44 (0)20 8754 5636
> > 
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.mainframe.uk.eds.com
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gillis, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 19 June 2006 22:24
> > Subject: Re: RES: VSE/VSAM for VM
> > 
> > I received the following reply from Gerhard Zierl
> > from IBM in April:
> > 
> > "...The news is that after assessing the situation
> > the product stays
> > withdrawn from market. Toady VM/VSAM is used in very
> > stable environments
> > by customers who have the product already licensed
> > and installed for a
> > long time, IBM hasn't seen new customers to this
> > product for a long
> > time. Therefore we do not see any problem associated
> > with the withdrawal
> > from market..  z/VM 5.2 customers can use their old
> > VSAM distribution
> > tape which they have received with their current
> > version of z/VM.
> > 
> > Same is true for end of service. The last APAR was
> > 2001 (more than 5
> > years). Before that there was one (new function)
> > APAR in 1999 and 2
> > defect APARs in 1996. VM/VSAM is a very stable
> > product. In addion
> > VM/VSAM is used by customers in mature and stable
> > environments, no new
> > applications, no major changes, etc... I would
> > assume the same applies
> > to your product.  So the risk of encountering a
> > severe problem is
> > extremely low.
> > In case customers decide they have a critical need
> > to have service
> > beyond the EOS-date, then there is in general an
> > option to ask IBM for a
> > charged service extension agreement."
> > 
> > Mark.
> > 
> 
> 
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