Well, that is IBM.

Reading between the lines: customer cannot order a copy of
z/VM 4.40 because it has been pulled from marketing. The
system just don't accept the order. But, if the customer
can get a copy from other places, IBM will let the customer
uses it as long as the customer registers the software with
IBM and is paying the licence fee. IBM wouldn't ask where
the customer obtained the copy from. "... this pratice (of
getting a copy of the software from other customer other
than from IBM) is neither recommended or condomed (by us)."


So, any taker? I promise I wouldn't tell IBM you give me a
copy of z/VM 4.40. I also promise my customer would
register with IBM and pay the licensing fee. Please contact
me off-list. TIA.

It will be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

...Roland


--- "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It seems to me that permission to get implies permission
> to send. However, I don't think the stated permission to
> get is official, and probably cannot be thought reliable
> unless stated in writing and signed by the appropriate
> people. Let us know when you get that :-)  
>  
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael
> Coffin
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation
> tape for 3390 system
>  
> I'm confused, IBM said they'd license z/VM 4.4.0 for you
> if you could get a copy of the installation tape from
> another customer, but won't permit other customers to
> send you a copy of the tape.  Am I understanding the
> situation correctly?  
>  
> IF permission to borrow an existing customer's tape(s)
> can be obtained from IBM, I may be able to help.  
>  
> Michael Coffin, President
> MC Consulting Company, Inc.
> 57 Tamarack Drive
> Stoughton, Massachusetts  02072
>  
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dodds, Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation
> tape for 3390 system
> We have the z/VM 4.4 Tapes but would need something from
> IBM saying it was ok for us to copy and give to you. 
>  
> Jim Dodds
> Systems Programmer
> Kentucky State University
> 400 East Main Street
> Frankfort, Ky 40601
> 502 597 6114
>  
>   _____  
> 
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland P.
> Chung
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:04 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: We need a copy of z/VM 4.40 installation tape
> for 3390 system
>  
> Hello Listers, sorry to bother you guys again.
>  
> We called IBM software to order z/VM 4.40. However, the
> rep.  said it was out of marketing since March 2006. He
> can't ship it to us. But, he said, if we can get a copy
> of the distribution tape, IBM will licence it for us.
>  
> Please contact me off-list if you are willing to lend a
> copy of the distribution tape for z/VM 4.40 for 3390
> system. Greatly appreciated. 
> 
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> ...Roland Chung
> Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSE&VM)
> MAXC Consultants Inc.
> Voice/Fax: 416-469-3280 (If busy, call: 416-469-2268)
> 197 Hastings Ave., Toronto, Ontario, Canada. M4L 2L6
> 
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