This is definately an area for improvement.

I would like to see a separation between the display program (VMC eqivalent)
and the data query interface (Pipe VMC). If the PTK server always delivered an
appropriately complete response to the command given, then any display program
could manage the movement of the data to the screen, and any data
collection/analysis program could process all the data in one pass. 

It has been a long time since I used the SNAP interface to RTM, but my memory
of it was that it returned the entire set of data associated with a particular
query. The data was not in the most displayable format, but I did not want to
display it in RTM's format. I wanted to graph the data. This is the type of
interface we should have from PIPE to PTK. 

Does PTK support the SNAP interface? If it does we should write a PTKSNAP stage
for PIPES to return all of the data.

/Tom Kern

--- Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:12:09 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> >The PIPE VMC would work great if it could return more than 101 lines.   If
> >I could do something like  PIPE VMC PTK NEXT,
> > that could work -- although they would have to change the performance
> >toolkit to make it work right.  I have tried that,
> >and it doesn't seem to work the same twice.  Sometimes it gives the
> >"second page" of userids, other times it gives the
> >"first page" again......
> >
> >Setting the limits does merit some thought -- that could just work!
> >
> >Thanks for the idea -- Paul.
> 
> I'm converting from RTM too and I struggle with the same problems.
> - "PIPE VMC PERFSVM xxx"  should always start at TOP,
>   So now I do issue a VMC PERFSVM TOP before the command I want and
>   that helps.
> - There is also no indication that the VMC output is incomplete.
>   So I issue VMC PERFSVM NEXT and compare its last line with
>   what I previously collected.  If it is the same, I'm ready.  But,
>   one also must compare the header to verify that PERFSVM is still
>   reporting about the same period, if not: restart the whole thing.
> 
> Did I overlook something, or this this "an area for improvement"?
> P.S. I'm still using VMPTK that comes with z/VM 4.4
> 
> Kris Buelens
> 


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