On Thursday, 07/27/2006 at 10:01 EST, Mike Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I beg to differ, Jim.  Many list subscribers and I still regularly use 
the
> old green-screen IBMLink and will continue to do so until they pry it 
from
> my cold, dead fingers.

Move past it, Mike.  ;-)  No one is going to hire 3270 application 
developers to maintain the old IBMLink.  When we *really* get old, we can 
rock back and forth on the front porch sipping ... lemonade ... 
reminiscing about the Good Ol' Days when computers were really slow, 
displayed only text, and you could get really amazing art on a line 
printer.  (I'm envisioning another round of Pepsi(R) versus Coke(R) 
commercials....)

There are a whole bunch of people in the industry who search for and apply 
fixes to their systems without needing 3270 applications to do it, and 
there are more of them than there are of us 3270-types.  They're younger, 
too.  [Read: They will outlive us.]  I would like to leverage *their* 
"skill" at applying maintenence to System z.  Remember, someday one of 
those Young Pups will be running your system, not you.  :-) They're good 
at navigating all those hidden click-throughs on those web pages. 
Likewise, it would be great if the skill you have about applying fixes to 
systems (change control, careful screening) could be applied to other 
platforms as well.  Of course, they use GUI tools.

We are participating in a variety of activities that propose to simplify 
the management of z/VM systems, including patch management.  And if it 
help you sleep better at night, let me say that Shop zSeries is not part 
of the solution, though the big content engines behind it are (as they 
have been through the ages).

IMO, buying software and patching it are two different processes that 
don't deserve to be mashed together into the same tool.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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