Thanks all for your responses.
 
Luckely I've been a bit conservative when it came to allocating the 8GB on our 
current CPU (we went from 1GB on a 9672 to 8GB on a z800).  Otherwise we may 
have been in trouble, with "only" 6 or 7 GB os-storage on a z9.  
 
Still, for IBM it may be a small step, but for me it's quite a leap seeing the 
HSA growing ten-fold. What goes in there nowadays? 
Hopefully the VM and VSE folks at IBM don't go down that same road... 
 
Bye,
Geert.
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Geert Dieltiens 
Systeembeheerder 
Informatica J. Van Breda & C° 


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Steve Gentry
Sent: donderdag 16 november 2006 13:44
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: HSA size on Z9 BC



We installed a z9 this past spring, had originally been running a z800.  I was 
surprised at the amount of storage the new HSA used. 
We didn't use the estimator.  We did loose at least a gig of storage.  Luckily 
we weren't memory constrained. 
The first time I ran into this situation, (many years ago) was at another shop 
and they were running a 4381-92E.  We had always run 
VSE native and didn't need any of the special features.  When we went to VM on 
this box, we had to install an IOCP.  We were already 
memory constrained with 64meg and it seemed the IOCP we coded req'd 16 meg.  So 
that cut us to 48meg.  Our IBM rep had 
failed to tell us about this memory hit.  Getting the IOCP loaded the first 
time is a whole other story. 
I've never understood why IBM  used customer storage to load the IOCP/HSA.  
But, then, as many people have mentioned, 
IBM is in the business to sell hardware (memory). 

Steve G. 




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Hi,

We have been talking to Santa recently and *maybe* this time he will bring us a 
z9. 

But I've been told that the HSA on a z9 can be quite large, compared to the 
current 128 MB on the z800.  So I've been playing with the "HSA Estimator tool 
for z9 BC v2.9.1" on Resource Link. The minimum HSA-size the tool predicts 
(specifiyng 0 devices, no dynamics, no hypersockets) is no less than 1216 MB. 
Using more realistic numbers for devices etc., I get a HSA size of 1536MB (1,5 
GB!). Which is *huge*, compared to the z800.

Are these sizes realistic? Can anyone using a z9 give me an indication of the 
HSA-size on their machines?    

Thanks!
Geert. 

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