I second having HCPLNM108E messages come to the System Operator or
trapped in a SPOOLed CONSOLE without having the id SCIFed. 

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        From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
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        Subject: Re: "MORE..." time during IPL
        
        

        That's the same way VM:Secure works; AUTOLOG1 does minimal setup
work and AUTOLOGs VMSECURE; VMSECURE then starts up and then AUTOLOGs
AUTOLOG2 which brings up the "usual suspects".   
        
        I have written some code that runs in VMSECURE "PROFILE EXEC"
which keeps checking for VM:Operator (could be PROP) to start up before
VM:Secure begins.  That permits VM:Operator (again, could  be PROP) to
properly handle any ESM error messages right from the start. 
        
        It would be really nice if we could issue some CP commands (such
as starting the virtual console SPOOLing) from the user's directory
entry so that missing devices error messages and such at logon and such
could be logged.  Maybe IBM could deliver such a present (going back to
VMSHARE's "NOTE XMASGIFT") in a future z/VM release? 
        
        Mike Walter

        Hewitt Associates

        Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not
necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. 
        
        
        
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        Sorry for the late append on this subject but I have been away
for the last week. 
        
        In this shop we use an ESS (RACF) and take the view that the
sole job of AUTOLOG1 is to start up the ESS - nothing else. 
        
        In the way we work OPERATOR has code in it's profile to wait
until either the ESS is available or a set amount of time since the
system IPL has expired. 
        
        All of the servers are started by AUTOLOG2 which is autologged
by OPERATOR when it is happy that the time is right, (there are various
checks to ensure that this is only done after an IPL and to allow
AUTOLOG2 processing to be bypassed when this is what we want). 
        
        Even though you may not have an ESS there is no reason why you
could not take this approach with AUTOLOG1 setting some value (or
switch) on which OPERATOR could work. 
        
        Regards 
        
        Colin Allinson 
        Amadeus Data Processing 
        

        
        
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