XSTORE is recommended for system paging.  In 5.2.0 systems you generally need 
2G or less.

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Kris,

I have now figured out from the IND SPACE every minute that the SQLDS user has 
only DASD paging between 300 and 700 pages per second in spaceid MAP0000000000. 
The BASE spaceid has no paging. Because Xstore is not defined there is 
obviously no xstore paging. Would it make sense to define Xstore? I'm not sure 
if a CMS user uses it.

Franz Josef
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  Here's my EXEC.

  Kris,
  IBM Belgium, VM customer support




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  Hi Kris,

  it seems to be dasd paging, because there is also heavy i/o on one paging
  dasd. I have found your "data in memory techniques" document, but there is
  no exec for checking ind spaces only qnssmap exec is listed there. But it
  was a good hint. I have created a small exec which does the ind spaces user
  xxx every minute and writes the result with a timestamp into a file. This I
  will let the customer run a few hours and check the results. I will not
  parse the command now because I have zVM 5.2 and I'm not sure if the command
  output is the same on VM/ESA 2.2. If I have the results available I will
  contact you again.

  regards

  Franz Josef

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  Do you know if this paging is "real paging" or "Dataspace I/O": when using
  VM dataspace support in DB2, all DB2 I/O is done by CP paging, hence high
  page rates.

  Quite some years ago, I created  a document  to explain the difference. It
  is called "Data in  memory techniques" or alike and available on the VM
  web page.
  If you search for EXECLOAD, NUCXLOAD and, BUELENS  you should quickly find
  it back.  It contains an EXEC that you can run in a server every x minutes
  and that then will report how many real page in/out happend and how many
  dataspace read/writes (based on counts reported by CP IND SPACES)

  If you've got RTM/ESA, its DISPLAY SYSDASD command also reports the
  dataspace "paging I/O"

  Kris,
  IBM Belgium, VM customer support




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  Hi listers,

  I have a customer with a really old VM/ESA 2.2, VSE/ESA 2.3 and SQLDS
  database. Now after migration to the tserver he complains about
  performance
  problems. What I have figured out that he has massive paging only on SQLDS
  service machine (300-500 pages/s). This I cannot understand, because first
  he has more memory available as before on multiprise (193 MB vs. 768 MB
  now)
  and second we haven't changed the system layout compared to the
  multiprise.
  We have migrated the system by dump/restoring the volumes with DDR. So
  what
  can cause only the sqlds machine to page so heavily? I have already
  doubled
  the virtual memory to 96 MB but this had no effect on the behaviour. Does
  anybody have an idea, where I can search for the problem?

  Mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards

  Franz Josef Pohlen
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