Was a 3174 ever a supported device for TCPIP? I don't think so, so regardless, 
he's going to need a different device (OSA, LCS/3172, something else...).



-----Original Message-----
From: "Stracka, James (GTI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 4/11/07 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Two Questions About VM

Kris,
 
Thanks for reminding me about the 3174L (Local) vs 3174 (SNA).  Was that a 
3174R or just plain 3174?
 
With the 3174L both TCP/IP and VTAM are not required as the are LOCAL terminals 
to VM.
 
Jim

        -----Original Message-----
        From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Kris Buelens
        Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:43 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: Two Questions About VM
        
        
        As already replied; DDR cannot restore to a disk of another device 
type.  So if your input is on tape, you will need to find a system with that 
type of DASD.  I don't know by heart, but may DITTO is able to restore DDR 
tapes to another type of disk. 
        
        If however you have a running system with different types of DASD 
connected, you can use DFSMS COPY to copy CMS formatted minidisks from one disk 
type to another (even from CKD to FBA).  DFSMS comes free of charge with VM, 
but it is only installed when you explictely do it (DFSMS COPY is high speed, 
it used to be a lot faster than DDR).   If this is your case, contact me again, 
I have some execs to help you during such a migration. 
        
        3174's came in two versions: a SNA one and a channel attached version.  
To use the channel attached version, no extra SW is required on VM, no TCP/IP, 
no VTAM either.  The SNA model requires VTAM.  If you got a modern CPU (like a 
z series) and a not too old z/VM, you can use the integrated 3270 console and 
install VM from the HMC (hardware console).  No need to search for any other 
3270-like device. 
        
        P.S. 9345's were not FBA, but CKD
        -- 
        Kris Buelens,
        IBM Belgium, VM customer support 
        
        
        2007/4/11, Stracka, James (GTI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

                I can answer the second.  VTAM and TCP/IP are totally 
independent on VM.  TCP/IP does not use CSA in GCS as it does on OS/390 systems.
                 
                I am unfamiliar with a 9395.  If it is also an FBA device, you 
can restore block ranges but the entire DASD depends on the amount of blocks.  
You may go smaller to larger but not larger to smaller.
                

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sergio Lima
                        Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:12 PM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: Two Questions About VM
                        
                        
                        Hi List,
                         
                        I don't work with VM for a long time, but now, have a 
friend that ask some questions, and I don't remember very well, so, I need a 
help in this list.
                        The first question are about DDR,
                         Is possible do a DDR Backup from 9345 DASD, and 
restore this to a 9395 DASD ?
                        Another question is if need install TCP/IP under VM, 
using a 3174 device, is necessary have also VTAM installed under VM.
                        This TCP/IP will be used only for Telnet.
                         
                        Thanks in advance
                         
                        Sergio Lima Costa

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