No, I have looked, and CMS Pipelines are nice indeed. But then so are pipes under UNIX; indeed, pipes are the very core of UNIX. If you are not annoyed by discussing it, I would love to hear your opinions on what is so primitive about UNIX. :)
Linux is more suitable in many ways; but that has a caveat - it depends of course, on exactly what you are doing. For example, Linux (or UNIX) in the raw character oriented mode is very *very* much like CMS with a bunch of different commands. And UNIX is much nicer to code C programs in that is VM. <grin> But what would you expect? It was designed around C! It was also designed to do text processing, and even today, it does that very well. Still can drive typesetters in fact. Perl is a nice language - but so is REXX - and if you are using THE editor, REXX is much cleaner than Perl. But along with Perl and REXX, you have about six thousand other scripting languages you can use - everything from basic "sh" scripts to TCL/TK and beyond. If you are a VM'er, the transition to Linux/UNIX is not as painful as you might think. I never did system admin on VM, and only a very small amount of development, while the opposite is true under UNIX. The opposite is also true under OS/390 or z/OS) That probably warps my perceptive a bit, but not that much. Well, I do admit to excessive nervousness when I have to make changes in VM these days though. (I have to act like a System Prog for VM. :) Anyway, I'd love to have a discussion about that. -Paul -----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 2:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: z/VM usability On 5/7/07, Paul Raulerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well - Linux works now, and can talk to all the CP services. Linux also > comes with Rexx (Regina), XEdit (THE Editor from Tim Hessling), and pipes > that are roughly equivalent to CMS Pipelines. Named pipes and message queues > and such are all available and under Linux and Solaris, very heavily used. We're told Linux was so much more suitable because of the tools available and was so much more intuitive to the new generation of systems people. I fail to see what problem we solve by writing system automation using Regina and THE because it will not be easier to maintain or enhance for people used to Perl. Compared to CMS Pipelines, UNIX pipes are a leaky garden hose. In a CMS Pipelines introduction class, people are already beyond the capabilities of UNIX pipes by the time of the first coffee break. Your suggestion that it's roughly equivalent suggest to me you never bothered to look at CMS Pipelines. Rob
