My method.

A.  I always rename the user direct to user dirmmddyy
            copy  user dirmmddyy to user direct
           make changes.
    I keep so many backups  Your option on how many.
                          # of months or items


B.  I log on as the new user and format the disk as them.



-----Original Message-----
>From: LOREN CHARNLEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Mar 10, 2008 8:40 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: listing active user directory
>
>z/VM has come with the directory defaulting to MAINT 2c2 disk accessed
>as c. I have always left it there because the 191 disk has too many
>accesses and changes. It seem to me that if you leave the directory on
>2c2 it would less vulnerable to an accidental deletion or in my case, it
>would result in one less hole in my foot!
>
>Loren Charnley, Jr.
>IT Systems Engineer
>Family Dollar Stores, Inc.
>(704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327
>(704) 814-3327
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Kris Buelens
>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:33 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: listing active user directory
>
>We've got MAINT B91 as backup of MAINT 191 since the VM/SP days.  Our
>DIRBKP EXEC keep the last 9 levels of the CP directory there, as well
>as SYSTEM CONFIG; the result of a QUERY DASD and Q ALLOC.  DIRBKP does
>not only maintain these backups but also performs some checks each
>night such as: is MDISK MAINT 298 (i.e. VTAM) still in the directory.
>Additionally, the 9 copies of the directory & co are also copied to a
>central SFS: so when a system is down due to disk errors, we know what
>is lost (touching wood: didn't need this for more than 10 years).
>
>2008/3/10, Mike Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Maybe it would be better to keep the USER DIRECT file (or whatever
>you're
>>  using as the source directory) off the 191 disk altogether, placing
>it on
>>  a separate disk, and at "known address"?
>>
>>  "Known address" could be defined in two parts:
>>
>>  1) Perhaps at cylinder 1 of a particular volser that you know and
>love
>>  (and can remember in a crisis)?
>>  2) A new MAINT MDISK, maybe "5DD"  (following VMSES/E's convention of
>the
>>  '5' looking a bit like an 'S' when one squints ones eyes - the 5DD
>reminds
>>  one of the SDD or 'S'ource 'D'irectory 'D'isk )?
>>
>>  Or, following the "SYSTEM CONFIG" CF1/CF2/CF3 disk standards, a
>paranoid
>>  sysprog could set up SD1, and SD2 disks.  Where the live directory is
>on
>>  the SD1 directory (at a "known extent  on a "known" volume), always
>make a
>>  backup copy to the SD2 disk (at a "known extent  on a "known" volume)
>>  before making any changes.  That way if anything goes wrong you can
>always
>>  go back one generation without needing to mount a tape.  It vastly
>reduces
>>  the chances of formatting *both* disks.  It depends on your level of
>>  paranoia.
>>
>>  By placing it on a disk other than 191 one must be very sure to never
>copy
>>  or save it to the 191 disk by accident or on purpose (just for a
>test, of
>>  course) because then you have the "opportunity" to figure out which
>is the
>>  real "USER DIRECT", or worse - which has some of the real entries and
>>  which has the rest of the real entries.  A good "PROFILE EXEC" could
>>  easily check for such duplicate errors.
>>
>>  Mike Walter
>>  Hewitt Associates
>>  Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily
>>  represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
>
>-- 
>Kris Buelens,
>IBM Belgium, VM customer support
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