On Wednesday, 03/26/2008 at 10:46 EDT, "Wandschneider, Scott" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anybody have a trick on how to LOGOFF disconnected users like
> DISKACNT instead of using FORCE.  Sometimes FORCE will cause a user to
> hang and it requires the forcing user to have class A.  I know that the
> FORCE command can be change to another class, but would rather stay away
> from FORCE altogether.

If I am the SECUSER of DISKACNT, I can use class G SEND CP DISKACNT 
LOGOFF.  There is also a class C version of SEND that doesn't require you 
to be the SECUSER, but giving someone class C SEND is more dangerous than 
FORCE.  SEND lets you issue (e.g. Linux) commands in the guest as well as 
CP commands.  FORCE just gives you the ability to get the user off the 
system.  In a choice between the two, FORCE is preferred.

In a previous discussion here, I asked about pairing FORCE authority with 
XAUTOLOG authority so that a class G user could FORCE any user he or she 
was authorized to XAUTOLOG.  That suggestion was shot down in flames.

As an alternative I can envision a change to CP to enable ESM protection 
of a new class G FORCE command so that you can control XAUTOLOG and FORCE 
separately. 

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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