I second that.  VM/IS R4 - module replacement only.  No service available, a 
manager was supposed to be able to install it.  And I've never seen it on
a historical timeline of VM.


   - Dave Hansen
     Hennepin County





                                                                                
                                                                      
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None of those hold a candle to the shortly lived, thank God, VM/IS.

What an ill conceived, poorly implemented, piece-o-doodoo that was.

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  VM/SP1 may have it beat. I remember the Vulture with the inscription
  "VM/SP is waiting for you" that Jim Bergsten created for it. We actually
  did not have much trouble with HPO4 at Piedmont Airlines. Compared to
  today's systems, it did have some stability issues; however, it was
  nowhere near as bad as SP1 or, for that matter, the earlier releases of
  VM. I remember some of the nightmares of the VM/370 Release 2 days.

  Regards,
  Richard Schuh



  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack
  > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:13 AM
  > To: [email protected]
  > Subject: Re: VTAM R.I.P.
  >
  > I was basing that on what an MVS sysprog told me.  I will
  > stand by my stmt, tho, that HPO 4 was the most unstable
  > operating system release I've seen in 41+ years of working in
  > this racket.  Also that it was one of the shortest lived releases.
  > Jim
  >
  > Alan Altmark wrote:
  > > On Wednesday, 04/02/2008 at 09:30 EDT, Jim Bohnsack
  > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > wrote:
  > >
  > >> .... R4 was the release
  > >> with "native" VTAM support.  VTAM had been supported for a
  > while with
  > >> VS/1 or DOS/VS hosting VTAM but someone decided that GCS
  > was the way
  > >> to go.  They took a gutted MVS/XA and quickly fitted it into VM.
  > >>
  > >
  > > Nonsense.  There is no more MVS/XA code in GCS than there is in CMS.
  > >
  > > Alan Altmark
  > > z/VM Development
  > > IBM Endicott
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
  > --
  > Jim Bohnsack
  > Cornell University
  > (607) 255-1760
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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