The other data center is ours, just not a twin of the center where VM
resides. Contractual first rights are not a consideration. 

The idea of two different VM:Backup machines and jobs might not be so
far fetched. There is no requirement that the two backups be identical
or nearly so. The requirement is that each backup must be a complete
logical backup. Twinning tapes does this, but it is not the only
solution.  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 5:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit
> 
> We're doing similarly with a Sun/STK peered VTS for 
> VM:Archiver.  It creates the duplicate virtual volsers in the 
> other campus without any work by VM:Backup (which does 
> VM:Archiver tape I/O).  Makes tape access for D.R. painlessly 
> automatic.  VM:Backup tapes are still twinned to external 
> 3590 magStar carts in both data centers because z/OS has 
> primary "rights" to the dual, peered VTS's.
> 
> BTW, one thing to consider is dual data centers.  It *is* 
> costly to set up, but if you have nearly equal 
> development/test vs production resource  requirements, the 
> cost justification becomes much simpler given that there is 
> no D.R. provider cost, and recovery (assuming mirrored DASD) 
> is very, very quick.  Our z/VM system is ready for use about 
> 15 minutes after we have the LPAR.  The myriad z/OS systems 
> are up in a few hours (DB2 recovery slows that down).  
> Compare that to restore at a D.R. provider - presuming that 
> it's just your data center that's lost.  If it's a regional 
> disaster and you're not first to declare the disaster, or the 
> others have a contractual "first dibbs" - well, it could be 
> 'a while'.  Food for thought.
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcy Cortes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06/06/2008 06:44 PM EST
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit
> 
> 
> 
> Another option would be a peered VTS.
> At the moment that's how we're getting all the linux volumes 
> there (although z/OS is doing the dumping and restoring of 
> those w/DFDSS and not us using vm utilities).
> 
> Marcy
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> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 4:06 PM
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> 
> This was actually our first option - remote shadow imaging.  
> The high cost involved and the fundamental requirements of an 
> actual disaster recovery eliminated the proposal.
> 
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:09 AM
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> Subject: Re: VM:Backup: Twinning Tapes to Remote Tape Unit
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> 
> 
> Thinking laterally about this, there is always another solution.
> 
> Have you thought about long-distance remote PPRC for your DASD.
> 
> I am not sure if the official IBM PPRC-XD product can cope 
> with 3000 miles but there are solutions that can.
> 
> 
> Colin Allinson
> 
> Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
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