Find the spooled console: CP collects everything, from the first message on,
that is, even from before the spool is actually open.  It should reveal
every LOGON/LOGOFF of OPERATOR etc.

2008/7/18 Scott Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> :-)   I enjoyed the apt metaphors, Alan...
>
> Thanks to Kris, Thomas, and Alan for their suggestions..  I'll work with
> the customer to try and determine what the real scenario might have been, as
> there is some confusion there.  I was also give a training session on this
> system and doing some unnatural things before we reIPLed, so I could have
> caused this myself somehow .. ?
>
> I assume that no matter who was SYSOPER when the system reIPLed that
> OPERATOR should have been SYSOPER when it came back up?  From what we've
> found so far, it almost seems like it wasn't...
>
> Thanks - Scott
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 07/18/2008 at 10:00 EDT, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > When the operator logs off for some reason, the first user logging on
>> > with CLASS A becomes "system operator".  Including a CP SET SYSOPER
>> > OPERATOR in the PROFILE EXEC of OPERATOR is handy indeed: it makes
>> > that an XAUTOLOG OPERATOR is sufficient to to re-assign the "system
>> > operator" task to OPERATOR.
>>
>> When the current sysoper logs off, CP goes into "hunt mode" and will check
>> to see if any of the ALTERNATE_OPERATORS are logged on.  If you are in the
>> list, you are given the privilege of being the system operator.  If no
>> alternate is available, only then will CP lie low in the grass, waiting
>> for an unsuspecting or weak sysprog to wander by, separated from the herd.
>>  You can hear the screams as the sysprog discovers
>> (a) TERM MODE CP is in effect and commands aren't working right
>> (b) there's an odd timestamp on every message
>> (c) realizes what's happened
>> (d) finally remembers "TERM MODE VM"
>> (e) the system is having I/O errors she didn't know about (HCPERPxxxx) and
>> that no one reported
>> (f) her plans to go home in 5 minutes are busted
>> (g) remembers whose dumb idea it was to put his or her own userid in the
>> ALTERNATE_OPERATORS list
>>
>> At his point, CP, bloodlust sated, settles down to watch over his harem of
>> virtual machines, secure in the knowledge The Operator will maintain order
>> in the universe.  (Sorry - it's "VM Week" on the Discovery Channel.)
>>
>> Alan Altmark
>> z/VM Development
>> IBM Endicott
>>
>
>


-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

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